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Joe Rogan isn't a great person to take any lessons from. At heart he's a comedian, which must be the most unconventional path you can take to anywhere in the US

by gexla 5y ago

Joe Rogan isn't a great person to take any lessons from. At heart he's a comedian, which must be the most unconventional path you can take to anywhere in the US. Comedians live on the road telling jokes. I wonder how much he really had to deal with bills.

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
Let me clear up some ignorance since a lot of HN has most likely not listened to enough early Joe Rogan podcasts. >Joe Rogan isn't a great person to take any lessons from If a republican says abortion wrong, should we discount their statement because they're republican? It's one thing to just listen to people and believe everything they say. It's another to comprehend when someone is just bullshitting and when someone is speaking from life experience. Joe in the early podcast was far less on the Ivory tower as he is today. >At heart he's a comedian Firstly, every single person who brings up his history prior to his mainstream success was he never did drugs, wired out of his mind to do better, and was very high strung. Universally all his friends on the podcast say this. It wasn't until he became a full on stoner that changed. Also, he said his big breaks were from News Radio and then Fear Factor. Both of which were his steady income's well before he became a famous comedian. He was active as a comedian but he barely had any significant success at it until around Fear Factor. He even acknowledges that he got lucky. So he's not some moron that thinks he was entitled it. He said his whole life would've been different had he not gotten a job on news radio. >I wonder how much he really had to deal with bills. None in the context of my statement. All his money paying for his porsche, place to live, and lifestyle were from News Radio and Fear Factor. That's how he got famous and he has since been able to continue that success. His comedy didn't take off outside of Boston until well in his 30's.
- gexla 5y ago
  > If a republican says abortion wrong... Whoa! Let's not get into politics. ;) You took my comment out of context. I'll take fault for not explaining myself. Morgan Housel writes for the wide audience of people who might need info about how to handle finances. The target persona is probably someone who has high paying job. Joe Rogan went a path which is probably as far opposite of this you can get. I love the list though. MMA commentator with a company which has only recently been hitting it big. Among the earliest comedian podcasters, which was probably a long grind meant to get more bookings rather than make money directly and then the Fear Factor thing. Just seems like Joe Rogan doesn't really fit as the sort of person you would take something away from while also reading Morgan Housel. > That's how he got famous I'm a fan and I love stand-up comedy. The thing that's so cool about stand-up is that even when comics turn mega-stars, they still turn up unannounced at hole-in-the-wall clubs. When I call him a comedian, it's because once a comedian, always a comedian. And I say that with the greatest love.
  - MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
    I realize I messed up my statement there actually... I meant to say "A republican says abortion is okay." The situation I stated is actually the norm.
kortilla 5y ago
What an strange sentiment. Being a comedian is a job like any other and early ones are very familiar with struggling to pay bills.
- gexla 5y ago
  Wait, you're calling my comment "strange" and then you come back with something like "comedian is a job?" Maybe you misunderstood me because you don't know what a comedian is. It's not a job. You tell jokes in front of people for one-off fees. I would take a WAG and say that 90% of comedians don't cover their living expenses from the craft. If you're serious about comedy today, you're probably going to live on the road. If you aren't on the road, it's because you don't have the means or the bookings (or you're in a pandemic.) People on the road don't have much bills. The people at the top might, but if you're a young comedian, maybe you're living out of your car. Your bills come from the people controlling the pump you're getting your gas from. Comedian must be the strangest existence. You sort of get into that mindset by not taking anything seriously, certainly not bills. Then at some point he got into Fear Factor and I imagine that bills were just a question of how large he wanted to live, not worrying about his electric getting cut off. Then he landed the Spotify gig and became a member of a super exclusive club of people who have signed a 100+ million dollar contract. When this dude says he doesn't have to worry about paying bills, he's on a way different level than most people posting here.
  - kortilla 5y ago
    > You tell jokes in front of people for one-off fees. You literally just described a job. A huge portion of the US society makes money from doing things for one-off fees. A sole proprietor house painter paints houses for one-off fees. A car driver drives people around for one-off fees. A motivational speaker talks to a group for one-off fees. You likely have a stricter definition than the rest of society of what a job is, but you should update it so people know wtf you’re talking about. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/job https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/job > People on the road don't have much bills. The people at the top might, but if you're a young comedian, maybe you're living out of your car. Your bills come from the people controlling the pump you're getting your gas from. Your grasp on the expenses living on the road is very tenuous. Credit card bills for food/gas/(shelter|gym shower), monthly bills for phone/car insurance/tax payments/car payment/medical expenses, etc. You still very much have to manage finances like anyone else. > You sort of get into that mindset by not taking anything seriously, certainly not bills. No, that’s absolutely not how comedy works. Good comedians aren’t just people who don’t give a fuck. You think it’s just people spitting off the cuff but it requires persistence, preparation, and practice. People good at comedy take their craft very seriously. You’re just describing a deadbeat, which has nothing to do with comedians.

by gexla 5y ago

MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago

Let me clear up some ignorance since a lot of HN has most likely not listened to enough early Joe Rogan podcasts. >Joe Rogan isn't a great person to take any lessons from If a republican says abortion wrong, should we discount their statement because they're republican? It's one thing to just listen to people and believe everything they say. It's another to comprehend when someone is just bullshitting and when someone is speaking from life experience. Joe in the early podcast was far less on the Ivory tower as he is today. >At heart he's a comedian Firstly, every single person who brings up his history prior to his mainstream success was he never did drugs, wired out of his mind to do better, and was very high strung. Universally all his friends on the podcast say this. It wasn't until he became a full on stoner that changed. Also, he said his big breaks were from News Radio and then Fear Factor. Both of which were his steady income's well before he became a famous comedian. He was active as a comedian but he barely had any significant success at it until around Fear Factor. He even acknowledges that he got lucky. So he's not some moron that thinks he was entitled it. He said his whole life would've been different had he not gotten a job on news radio. >I wonder how much he really had to deal with bills. None in the context of my statement. All his money paying for his porsche, place to live, and lifestyle were from News Radio and Fear Factor. That's how he got famous and he has since been able to continue that success. His comedy didn't take off outside of Boston until well in his 30's.

gexla 5y ago
> If a republican says abortion wrong... Whoa! Let's not get into politics. ;) You took my comment out of context. I'll take fault for not explaining myself. Morgan Housel writes for the wide audience of people who might need info about how to handle finances. The target persona is probably someone who has high paying job. Joe Rogan went a path which is probably as far opposite of this you can get. I love the list though. MMA commentator with a company which has only recently been hitting it big. Among the earliest comedian podcasters, which was probably a long grind meant to get more bookings rather than make money directly and then the Fear Factor thing. Just seems like Joe Rogan doesn't really fit as the sort of person you would take something away from while also reading Morgan Housel. > That's how he got famous I'm a fan and I love stand-up comedy. The thing that's so cool about stand-up is that even when comics turn mega-stars, they still turn up unannounced at hole-in-the-wall clubs. When I call him a comedian, it's because once a comedian, always a comedian. And I say that with the greatest love.
- MeinBlutIstBlau 5y ago
  I realize I messed up my statement there actually... I meant to say "A republican says abortion is okay." The situation I stated is actually the norm.

kortilla 5y ago

What an strange sentiment. Being a comedian is a job like any other and early ones are very familiar with struggling to pay bills.

gexla 5y ago
Wait, you're calling my comment "strange" and then you come back with something like "comedian is a job?" Maybe you misunderstood me because you don't know what a comedian is. It's not a job. You tell jokes in front of people for one-off fees. I would take a WAG and say that 90% of comedians don't cover their living expenses from the craft. If you're serious about comedy today, you're probably going to live on the road. If you aren't on the road, it's because you don't have the means or the bookings (or you're in a pandemic.) People on the road don't have much bills. The people at the top might, but if you're a young comedian, maybe you're living out of your car. Your bills come from the people controlling the pump you're getting your gas from. Comedian must be the strangest existence. You sort of get into that mindset by not taking anything seriously, certainly not bills. Then at some point he got into Fear Factor and I imagine that bills were just a question of how large he wanted to live, not worrying about his electric getting cut off. Then he landed the Spotify gig and became a member of a super exclusive club of people who have signed a 100+ million dollar contract. When this dude says he doesn't have to worry about paying bills, he's on a way different level than most people posting here.
- kortilla 5y ago
  > You tell jokes in front of people for one-off fees. You literally just described a job. A huge portion of the US society makes money from doing things for one-off fees. A sole proprietor house painter paints houses for one-off fees. A car driver drives people around for one-off fees. A motivational speaker talks to a group for one-off fees. You likely have a stricter definition than the rest of society of what a job is, but you should update it so people know wtf you’re talking about. https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/job https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/job > People on the road don't have much bills. The people at the top might, but if you're a young comedian, maybe you're living out of your car. Your bills come from the people controlling the pump you're getting your gas from. Your grasp on the expenses living on the road is very tenuous. Credit card bills for food/gas/(shelter|gym shower), monthly bills for phone/car insurance/tax payments/car payment/medical expenses, etc. You still very much have to manage finances like anyone else. > You sort of get into that mindset by not taking anything seriously, certainly not bills. No, that’s absolutely not how comedy works. Good comedians aren’t just people who don’t give a fuck. You think it’s just people spitting off the cuff but it requires persistence, preparation, and practice. People good at comedy take their craft very seriously. You’re just describing a deadbeat, which has nothing to do with comedians.