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it is easy to put all the blame on the land lord, and I am sure they are partially to blame. However in many area's "downtown" is not a good place to be, there

by syshum 5y ago

it is easy to put all the blame on the land lord, and I am sure they are partially to blame. However in many area's "downtown" is not a good place to be, there is limited parking, little public transit, high crime, high vagrancy, and the city does not spend much in keeping up their end of the bargin either. I know more than a few places that left downtown not because of increasing rents, but because of decreasing customers and other issues with being downtown, they moved a little outside the city core where they can have their own parking lot, their own good signage with out tons of regulations, get deliveries with out issue, etc... and the business boomed. Me personally, I live in the 2nd largest city in my state, I refuse to go to the down town area. There are plenty of businesses down there but there is no parking, higher prices, smaller shops, and it just is not enjoyable to me. I do not like high density...

golemiprague 5y ago
Might be true for American cities with their car based suburban structure but it is a complete different situation for European cities.
6510 5y ago
Depends how you define blame. They chose to invest in the area which comes with its risks?
- syshum 5y ago
  Sure. I am not clear on your point. I am not defending tax breaks just explaining why "downtown" decay is not simply a by product of "greedy evil landlords"
  - 6510 5y ago
    Right. Its not their job to do city planning, they were just looking to invest in something. Its hard to say when one becomes greedy, does trying not to end up in debt count? What does it matter really, motivation changes nothing to the situation.
pm_me_your_quan 5y ago
But dense urban cores tend to subsidize all of the infrastructure that makes suburban life possible. If the money weren't funneled in the wrong directions, there's no way it would make sense to be out of the urban core.
- syshum 5y ago
  Aside from that being a false statement. "Wrong" is subjective. I am sure these is a ton of government spending believe is wrong or outside the role of government that you find to be a requirement of government

by syshum 5y ago

golemiprague 5y ago

Might be true for American cities with their car based suburban structure but it is a complete different situation for European cities.

6510 5y ago

Depends how you define blame. They chose to invest in the area which comes with its risks?

syshum 5y ago
Sure. I am not clear on your point. I am not defending tax breaks just explaining why "downtown" decay is not simply a by product of "greedy evil landlords"
- 6510 5y ago
  Right. Its not their job to do city planning, they were just looking to invest in something. Its hard to say when one becomes greedy, does trying not to end up in debt count? What does it matter really, motivation changes nothing to the situation.

pm_me_your_quan 5y ago

But dense urban cores tend to subsidize all of the infrastructure that makes suburban life possible. If the money weren't funneled in the wrong directions, there's no way it would make sense to be out of the urban core.

syshum 5y ago
Aside from that being a false statement. "Wrong" is subjective. I am sure these is a ton of government spending believe is wrong or outside the role of government that you find to be a requirement of government