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apparently the shooter on the island was nordic, tall, blonde in appearance. (according to tv2.no news)

by chippy 15y ago

InclinedPlane 15y ago
That doesn't necessarily rule out al qaeda involvement, there have been caucasian taliban et al before. But we shouldn't jump to conclusions until we have the facts regardless.
- guard-of-terra 15y ago
  Arabs tend to be caucasian as in Europoid - they're semitic, and semites are usually Europoid. I don't have a word for what you wanted to say readily available, sorry.
  - scythe 15y ago
    "White people" is a perfectly reasonable term; you don't need to dress it up if that's what you mean. Genetically, it's not totally accurate ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people#21st_century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people#21st_century ) but socially, it's a thing.
  - ComputerGuru 15y ago
    Yes, but only to an extent. There are no (to the best of my knowledge) actually blond arabs (though hair dye is a dime a dozen these days, of course). And Semites can generally be readily identified by certain features that while they can be shared with Caucasians are rarely not present on Arabs (bridge of the nose, the brow, the eye placement, etc.).
    - guard-of-terra 15y ago
      Race is determined by genes, not looks. There are, AFAIR, only five human races and arabs, being semites, belong to one of those called "europoids" (aka "caucasians").
- uggedal 15y ago
  The Minister of Justice just confirmed that the shooter was Norwegian in a press conference. They have not confirmed his etnisity though.
- cheez 15y ago
  I remember the Oklahoma bombing and the first picture was of some random brown muslim guy. Turns out, it was a white athiest. Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. In fact, I seem to recall that radical jews had more attacks on US soil than radical muslims. And since 9/11 was so neatly sown up, we'll never really know who was truly behind it.
  - eibrahim 15y ago
    Come on man. You are delusional!!! Terrorist attacks are 90% by muslim extremists... Stop living in a fantasy world... new york, washington dc, london, spain, egypt, turkey, mumbai, kenya, yemen, thailand, Philippines, russia etc... I am not saying all of them but 90% is probably very accurate... Instead of blaming it on others, it should be addressed by the muslim world and not just denied. When a radical christian does something like, he is denounced by all christian leaders and people. Love thy enemy != Kill the infidels
    - cheez 15y ago
      I'm not making it up. It's a real thing: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/ http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-musl...
  - kevinpet 15y ago
    McVeigh was sort of Catholic. He wasn't motivated by religious extremism, but he was not an atheist. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Political_views_and_religious_beliefs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Political_views...
  - shrikant 15y ago
    > Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. There's no such thing as a 'radical atheist' in the sense that you're using it, mate. Also, there's no mention of atheists in the FBI stats you speak of - http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005 http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-200... (Sorry, I'm sensitive to this, but then this is why we shouldn't be discussing religion and politics on HN...)

apparently the shooter on the island was nordic, tall, blonde in appearance. (according to tv2.no news)

by chippy 15y ago

apparently the shooter on the island was nordic, tall, blonde in appearance. (according to tv2.no news)

That doesn't necessarily rule out al qaeda involvement, there have been caucasian taliban et al before. But we shouldn't jump to conclusions until we have the facts regardless.

guard-of-terra 15y ago
Arabs tend to be caucasian as in Europoid - they're semitic, and semites are usually Europoid. I don't have a word for what you wanted to say readily available, sorry.
- scythe 15y ago
  "White people" is a perfectly reasonable term; you don't need to dress it up if that's what you mean. Genetically, it's not totally accurate ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people#21st_century http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people#21st_century ) but socially, it's a thing.
- ComputerGuru 15y ago
  Yes, but only to an extent. There are no (to the best of my knowledge) actually blond arabs (though hair dye is a dime a dozen these days, of course). And Semites can generally be readily identified by certain features that while they can be shared with Caucasians are rarely not present on Arabs (bridge of the nose, the brow, the eye placement, etc.).
  - guard-of-terra 15y ago
    Race is determined by genes, not looks. There are, AFAIR, only five human races and arabs, being semites, belong to one of those called "europoids" (aka "caucasians").
uggedal 15y ago
The Minister of Justice just confirmed that the shooter was Norwegian in a press conference. They have not confirmed his etnisity though.
cheez 15y ago
I remember the Oklahoma bombing and the first picture was of some random brown muslim guy. Turns out, it was a white athiest. Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. In fact, I seem to recall that radical jews had more attacks on US soil than radical muslims. And since 9/11 was so neatly sown up, we'll never really know who was truly behind it.
- eibrahim 15y ago
  Come on man. You are delusional!!! Terrorist attacks are 90% by muslim extremists... Stop living in a fantasy world... new york, washington dc, london, spain, egypt, turkey, mumbai, kenya, yemen, thailand, Philippines, russia etc... I am not saying all of them but 90% is probably very accurate... Instead of blaming it on others, it should be addressed by the muslim world and not just denied. When a radical christian does something like, he is denounced by all christian leaders and people. Love thy enemy != Kill the infidels
  - cheez 15y ago
    I'm not making it up. It's a real thing: http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-muslims/ http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/not-all-terrorists-are-musl...
- kevinpet 15y ago
  McVeigh was sort of Catholic. He wasn't motivated by religious extremism, but he was not an atheist. Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Political_views_and_religious_beliefs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Political_views...
- shrikant 15y ago
  > Look up the FBI stats on radical muslim bombings on US soil vs radical christian vs radical athiest bombings. There's no such thing as a 'radical atheist' in the sense that you're using it, mate. Also, there's no mention of atheists in the FBI stats you speak of - http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-2002-2005 http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/terrorism-200... (Sorry, I'm sensitive to this, but then this is why we shouldn't be discussing religion and politics on HN...)