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>The user interface has been redesigned. Some of you will love it, some will hate it. You’re welcome and sorry. This is great, except now all of the UI element

>The user interface has been redesigned. Some of you will love it, some will hate it. You’re welcome and sorry. This is great, except now all of the UI elements are at the top of the screen, which on modern large phones is very awkward, even with my long fingers. Looking over the github repo, it appears that I'm not the only one with this concern, and that the author isn't interested in making this configurable. Too bad, this is the only thing that is keeping me from upgrading Lineage, as the older version of K-9 will no longer work. Anyways, thanks for all the hard work. Excellent tool.

zootboy 5y ago
I'm in the same position, and I've been considering wading into the misery that is Android app development just long enough to add a setting to move the action bar to the bottom of the screen. I've also been considering switching to FairEmail, though it has its own share of UI / user flow weirdness.
411111111111111 5y ago
> This is great, except now all of the UI elements are at the top of the screen, which on modern large phones is very awkward, even with my long fingers. I've always found it easier to reach the top of the phone than the bottom, so his sentence is spot on: Some love it, other like you hate it.
- nanomonkey 5y ago
  Interesting. How do you hold your phone with one hand, in such a way that it is secure, and you aren't accidentally hitting the buttons, or having the meat of your hand make contact with the screen? My pinky is normally a hard stop for the bottom of the phone,so that I don't have to apply much pressure with my other fingers or the meat of my hand. My thumb therefore can reach the bottom half of the phone easily, but needs to be readjusted to reach the top. This image leads me to believe that I'm not the only one with this problem: https://www.apptentive.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-27-at-1.05.53-PM.png https://www.apptentive.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen...
  - VPenkov 5y ago
    Not the original author of the comment but I share the preference. I hold my phone often by the sides; the edge of my palm is a bit higher than the edge of my phone and is not supporting it from below. A bit like this but without the assistive strap and my fingers actually wrap around the phone a bit more: https://images.app.goo.gl/oxvXQRVBg38oTjnH6 https://images.app.goo.gl/oxvXQRVBg38oTjnH6 My hands are somewhat skinny so the meat of my hand doesn't interfere but I think my phone case also has to do with this. My grip seems rare, I couldn't find images of it. I can't use my pinky as a hard stop always, because if I do it for long enough, I'd get some pain in my joints. I switch between grips depending on what I do. My texting grip is the one people usually have and I switch to it by pushing my phone with my body to guide it down my palm.
    - stallmanite 5y ago
      I share your “rare grip” precisely and also adopted it to alleviate pinky pain. To add another anecdote to the pile I also prefer UI elements at the top although a toggle in settings or at least a configuration file would be best. I don’t understand my own preferences on this issue though because the arguments for the bottom position are completely convincing to me. (Thumb is closer, top of screen is better used for displaying messages, etc)
Abishek_Muthian 5y ago
K-9 Mail also has Auto-Encrypt which automatically encrypts/decrypts email with public key on the OpenKeychain. I used it for sending and receiving WhatsApp message over email in order to remove it from the phone and isolating it in a VM[1]. [1] https://abishekmuthian.com/send-and-receive-whatsapp-messages-through-email/ https://abishekmuthian.com/send-and-receive-whatsapp-message...

zootboy 5y ago

I'm in the same position, and I've been considering wading into the misery that is Android app development just long enough to add a setting to move the action bar to the bottom of the screen. I've also been considering switching to FairEmail, though it has its own share of UI / user flow weirdness.

411111111111111 5y ago

> This is great, except now all of the UI elements are at the top of the screen, which on modern large phones is very awkward, even with my long fingers. I've always found it easier to reach the top of the phone than the bottom, so his sentence is spot on: Some love it, other like you hate it.

nanomonkey 5y ago
Interesting. How do you hold your phone with one hand, in such a way that it is secure, and you aren't accidentally hitting the buttons, or having the meat of your hand make contact with the screen? My pinky is normally a hard stop for the bottom of the phone,so that I don't have to apply much pressure with my other fingers or the meat of my hand. My thumb therefore can reach the bottom half of the phone easily, but needs to be readjusted to reach the top. This image leads me to believe that I'm not the only one with this problem: https://www.apptentive.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen-Shot-2016-10-27-at-1.05.53-PM.png https://www.apptentive.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Screen...
- VPenkov 5y ago
  Not the original author of the comment but I share the preference. I hold my phone often by the sides; the edge of my palm is a bit higher than the edge of my phone and is not supporting it from below. A bit like this but without the assistive strap and my fingers actually wrap around the phone a bit more: https://images.app.goo.gl/oxvXQRVBg38oTjnH6 https://images.app.goo.gl/oxvXQRVBg38oTjnH6 My hands are somewhat skinny so the meat of my hand doesn't interfere but I think my phone case also has to do with this. My grip seems rare, I couldn't find images of it. I can't use my pinky as a hard stop always, because if I do it for long enough, I'd get some pain in my joints. I switch between grips depending on what I do. My texting grip is the one people usually have and I switch to it by pushing my phone with my body to guide it down my palm.
  - stallmanite 5y ago
    I share your “rare grip” precisely and also adopted it to alleviate pinky pain. To add another anecdote to the pile I also prefer UI elements at the top although a toggle in settings or at least a configuration file would be best. I don’t understand my own preferences on this issue though because the arguments for the bottom position are completely convincing to me. (Thumb is closer, top of screen is better used for displaying messages, etc)

Abishek_Muthian 5y ago

K-9 Mail also has Auto-Encrypt which automatically encrypts/decrypts email with public key on the OpenKeychain. I used it for sending and receiving WhatsApp message over email in order to remove it from the phone and isolating it in a VM[1]. [1] https://abishekmuthian.com/send-and-receive-whatsapp-messages-through-email/ https://abishekmuthian.com/send-and-receive-whatsapp-message...