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I prefered Thai sticks. I should ask at the mary jane store if I could order some.

drmpeg 5y ago
Back around 1985 or so, there used to be a glut of loose Thai bud in the Bay Area. It was dense and dark brown (like chocolate). But the importers eventually got busted and that was the end of that.
caymanjim 5y ago
Branding like "Thai stick" was common in the 80s, and was pretty much always just marketing bullshit. The same thing applies now. "Kush" and other terms are all marketing gimmicks. The best weed available in the US in the 80s, regardless of how it was labeled or where it came from, was absolute garbage compared to what's grown now. THC concentrations are much higher, weed is grown in better conditions, by trained botanists, sealed up and delivered fresh. Anything people got in the 80s was weak and stale by comparison.
- basisword 5y ago
  Curious why a high THC concentration == good. Isn’t that like saying whiskey is better than beer because it has a higher alcohol percentage?
  - DonHopkins 5y ago
    More so with whisky than with beer, it's about the flavor, not how drunk it gets you. And for weed it's more like high concentration of aromatic terpenes == eye watering yummy flavor == health and emotional benefits == also tends to have gobs of THC. Different strains have different balances and varieties of terpenes and THC. I'd rather smoke "diet weed" with lots of terpenes but little THC, than "crack weed" with no terpenes and pure THC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terpene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terpene https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-are-terpenes https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-are-terpenes https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-marijuana-landrace-strain https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-marijuana-l... Pinene is my pungent favorite, which what makes Sour Diesel smell like a Royal Pine Air Freshener. https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-pinene-and-what-are-the-benefits-of-this-cannabis-terpene https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-pinene-and-... https://www.caliterpenes.com/en/cannabis-terpenes/sour-diesel-terpenes#/25-volumen-1_ml https://www.caliterpenes.com/en/cannabis-terpenes/sour-diese... https://www.littletrees.com/fragrances/royal-pine https://www.littletrees.com/fragrances/royal-pine
  - Stratoscope 5y ago
    People don't generally consume a fixed amount of cannabis, but the amount that gives the effect they want. With a greater THC and terpene concentration, you can use a smaller amount of flower. For those who smoke, this means less of the harmful burned vegetable matter. Even in a vaporizer, you get a nicer flavor and can use less.
  - quickthrowman 5y ago
    You can smoke less burning plant matter to achieve the same effect.
- ksaj 5y ago
  Thai Sticks are a real thing, and not a brand. You can think of them as the way tobacco leaves are wrapped to make cigars, but marijuana instead. Then they're wrapped in a thin string to help them dry/cure into the right shape. YouTube has a few videos showing how they are made.
  - okareaman 5y ago
    I wonder how the Vietnam vets got them home in the mid 70's when I smoked them? I know they were premium and better than what else was available. They were so good, someone who knew I had them them into my house in '76 and robbed me of them. The idiots somehow knew where my stash was.
- DonHopkins 5y ago
  Yeah, it was a marketing gimmick: I remember buying "tie sticks", which was marijuana tied to a stick. Speaking of trained botanists, here is a wonderful episode of "Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't" called "Tony Santoro's Trackside Botany/Ditchweed Tutorial". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG29eXY8e3A&ab_channel=CrimePaysButBotanyDoesn%27t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG29eXY8e3A&ab_channel=Crime... And here's another enlightening one about magic mushrooms called "The Ethnomycology of Ugly Landscaping": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHRgY8fZNv4&ab_channel=CrimePaysButBotanyDoesn%27t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHRgY8fZNv4&ab_channel=Crime...
  - okareaman 5y ago
    tie stick != Thai stick
- 13of40 5y ago
  > THC concentrations are much higher It's funny, because as far as I recall, that trope was a cornerstone of anti drug propaganda in the 80s. You can almost extrapolate that all of those poor beatniks and hippies were walking around sober because their weed didn't work.
- stevenicr 5y ago
  small data point I know.. but I recall in circles around dc/va/md in the 80s - you only heard about thai sticks a couple times a year maybe - and when they were around - they were not a marketing gimmck like taking homegrown and adding a stick and string.. they were fluffy, and appeared to have a coating of hash basically(memory is vague at this point) I have no doubt that places around the country had people try to make similar and sell it as such - but there certainly did appear to be a special type of thai stick that came around once in a while, and not only did it look different, but had a similar effect to packing a bowl with kind sinse and topping it with hash oil before smoking. Sure concentrations might be higher today across the board, but there was some select groups that had access to premium things in the 80s - even if the average smoker was getting compressed brown bud that had more stems and seeds than flowers - that does not mean that there were not a few trained botanists way back when that could deliver quality and fresh - there just wasn't enough to go around for it to be common.
  - okareaman 5y ago
    That's how I remember them brought in by Vietnam vets in the 70's, which was probably over in the 80's (I stopped smoking then because the Navy invented piss tests shortly after I joined)
- okareaman 5y ago
  You are probably right about the 80's marketing gimmicks, but in the mid 70's real Thai stick was being brought in by Vietnam vets and it was good. The 80's brand was probably based on memories of good Thai stick
  - deleted 5y ago
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Back around 1985 or so, there used to be a glut of loose Thai bud in the Bay Area. It was dense and dark brown (like chocolate). But the importers eventually got busted and that was the end of that.

caymanjim 5y ago

Branding like "Thai stick" was common in the 80s, and was pretty much always just marketing bullshit. The same thing applies now. "Kush" and other terms are all marketing gimmicks. The best weed available in the US in the 80s, regardless of how it was labeled or where it came from, was absolute garbage compared to what's grown now. THC concentrations are much higher, weed is grown in better conditions, by trained botanists, sealed up and delivered fresh. Anything people got in the 80s was weak and stale by comparison.

basisword 5y ago
Curious why a high THC concentration == good. Isn’t that like saying whiskey is better than beer because it has a higher alcohol percentage?
- DonHopkins 5y ago
  More so with whisky than with beer, it's about the flavor, not how drunk it gets you. And for weed it's more like high concentration of aromatic terpenes == eye watering yummy flavor == health and emotional benefits == also tends to have gobs of THC. Different strains have different balances and varieties of terpenes and THC. I'd rather smoke "diet weed" with lots of terpenes but little THC, than "crack weed" with no terpenes and pure THC. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terpene https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terpene https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-are-terpenes https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/what-are-terpenes https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-marijuana-landrace-strain https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-marijuana-l... Pinene is my pungent favorite, which what makes Sour Diesel smell like a Royal Pine Air Freshener. https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-pinene-and-what-are-the-benefits-of-this-cannabis-terpene https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/what-is-pinene-and-... https://www.caliterpenes.com/en/cannabis-terpenes/sour-diesel-terpenes#/25-volumen-1_ml https://www.caliterpenes.com/en/cannabis-terpenes/sour-diese... https://www.littletrees.com/fragrances/royal-pine https://www.littletrees.com/fragrances/royal-pine
- Stratoscope 5y ago
  People don't generally consume a fixed amount of cannabis, but the amount that gives the effect they want. With a greater THC and terpene concentration, you can use a smaller amount of flower. For those who smoke, this means less of the harmful burned vegetable matter. Even in a vaporizer, you get a nicer flavor and can use less.
- quickthrowman 5y ago
  You can smoke less burning plant matter to achieve the same effect.
ksaj 5y ago
Thai Sticks are a real thing, and not a brand. You can think of them as the way tobacco leaves are wrapped to make cigars, but marijuana instead. Then they're wrapped in a thin string to help them dry/cure into the right shape. YouTube has a few videos showing how they are made.
- okareaman 5y ago
  I wonder how the Vietnam vets got them home in the mid 70's when I smoked them? I know they were premium and better than what else was available. They were so good, someone who knew I had them them into my house in '76 and robbed me of them. The idiots somehow knew where my stash was.
DonHopkins 5y ago
Yeah, it was a marketing gimmick: I remember buying "tie sticks", which was marijuana tied to a stick. Speaking of trained botanists, here is a wonderful episode of "Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't" called "Tony Santoro's Trackside Botany/Ditchweed Tutorial". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG29eXY8e3A&ab_channel=CrimePaysButBotanyDoesn%27t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CG29eXY8e3A&ab_channel=Crime... And here's another enlightening one about magic mushrooms called "The Ethnomycology of Ugly Landscaping": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHRgY8fZNv4&ab_channel=CrimePaysButBotanyDoesn%27t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHRgY8fZNv4&ab_channel=Crime...
- okareaman 5y ago
  tie stick != Thai stick
13of40 5y ago
> THC concentrations are much higher It's funny, because as far as I recall, that trope was a cornerstone of anti drug propaganda in the 80s. You can almost extrapolate that all of those poor beatniks and hippies were walking around sober because their weed didn't work.
stevenicr 5y ago
small data point I know.. but I recall in circles around dc/va/md in the 80s - you only heard about thai sticks a couple times a year maybe - and when they were around - they were not a marketing gimmck like taking homegrown and adding a stick and string.. they were fluffy, and appeared to have a coating of hash basically(memory is vague at this point) I have no doubt that places around the country had people try to make similar and sell it as such - but there certainly did appear to be a special type of thai stick that came around once in a while, and not only did it look different, but had a similar effect to packing a bowl with kind sinse and topping it with hash oil before smoking. Sure concentrations might be higher today across the board, but there was some select groups that had access to premium things in the 80s - even if the average smoker was getting compressed brown bud that had more stems and seeds than flowers - that does not mean that there were not a few trained botanists way back when that could deliver quality and fresh - there just wasn't enough to go around for it to be common.
- okareaman 5y ago
  That's how I remember them brought in by Vietnam vets in the 70's, which was probably over in the 80's (I stopped smoking then because the Navy invented piss tests shortly after I joined)
okareaman 5y ago
You are probably right about the 80's marketing gimmicks, but in the mid 70's real Thai stick was being brought in by Vietnam vets and it was good. The 80's brand was probably based on memories of good Thai stick
- deleted 5y ago
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