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Why can it not be meaningfully solved right now, technically? Do we need AGI to solve easy to use self-hosted apps? I don't think so. I think the blockers are m

Why can it not be meaningfully solved right now, technically? Do we need AGI to solve easy to use self-hosted apps? I don't think so. I think the blockers are more economic than technical. Which is why in fact the field is heading the other way, towards the universal cloud and thin clients.

FooBarWidget 5y ago
Self-hosting means that the person who does the administering, has no control over the infrastructure, configuration, etc. There are millions of ways in which something could be configured. The user could have installed a kernel extension that panics every 2 days, for all he knows. This means that the administrator must be sufficiently skilled to be able to handle all anything that might come at him. Which means that he's expensive. This makes it economically hard to compete against hosting, where they administrators can be cheaper due to having more controlled environments. One solution is for administrators to insist on that environment conforms to some sort of standard. But no meaningful standardization currently exist for this context. Making the device/software resilient enough, is also very hard, and suffers the same problems as with human administrators. If you install a device in a network with a faulty router, then what is that device supposed to do? How does it even know the router is the culprit?
- FooBarWidget 5y ago
  Why the downvotes? What exactly have I said that is controversial, untrue or misleading?
AussieWog93 5y ago
>I think the blockers are more economic than technical. I don't see why it can't be both. I run an eCommerce website and pay $5/month to DigitalOcean for what is basically a VPS running Wordpress and Cyberpanel (free and good cPanel alternative). The reason I'm happy to pay that $5 is because it makes a whole host of technical problems disappear. I don't have to worry about maintaining hardware or dealing with an outage if my (consumer) internet is down for maintenance. I don't have to configure my router or set up the CDN, and the bandwidth they have at these data centres is 10x what I have at home. If these technical problems disappeared, I wouldn't need to outsource the hosting to an external provider and could save myself the hosting fee. On the other hand, if cloud hosting were significantly more expensive (or if I was just running a website as a hobby and didn't care about downtime), I'd definitely spend the time learning to self-host.

FooBarWidget 5y ago

Self-hosting means that the person who does the administering, has no control over the infrastructure, configuration, etc. There are millions of ways in which something could be configured. The user could have installed a kernel extension that panics every 2 days, for all he knows. This means that the administrator must be sufficiently skilled to be able to handle all anything that might come at him. Which means that he's expensive. This makes it economically hard to compete against hosting, where they administrators can be cheaper due to having more controlled environments. One solution is for administrators to insist on that environment conforms to some sort of standard. But no meaningful standardization currently exist for this context. Making the device/software resilient enough, is also very hard, and suffers the same problems as with human administrators. If you install a device in a network with a faulty router, then what is that device supposed to do? How does it even know the router is the culprit?

FooBarWidget 5y ago
Why the downvotes? What exactly have I said that is controversial, untrue or misleading?

AussieWog93 5y ago

>I think the blockers are more economic than technical. I don't see why it can't be both. I run an eCommerce website and pay $5/month to DigitalOcean for what is basically a VPS running Wordpress and Cyberpanel (free and good cPanel alternative). The reason I'm happy to pay that $5 is because it makes a whole host of technical problems disappear. I don't have to worry about maintaining hardware or dealing with an outage if my (consumer) internet is down for maintenance. I don't have to configure my router or set up the CDN, and the bandwidth they have at these data centres is 10x what I have at home. If these technical problems disappeared, I wouldn't need to outsource the hosting to an external provider and could save myself the hosting fee. On the other hand, if cloud hosting were significantly more expensive (or if I was just running a website as a hobby and didn't care about downtime), I'd definitely spend the time learning to self-host.