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Oh, a tech from a decade ago adapted on the closed SDK of a closed device! The fact that they have to write a paragraph promising that everything is local and

by Iv 5y ago

Oh, a tech from a decade ago adapted on the closed SDK of a closed device! The fact that they have to write a paragraph promising that everything is local and that videos don't get sent online, curiously, makes me even more suspicious.

LambdaComplex 5y ago
And if they didn't write that paragraph? It's Facebook, so you'd be suspicious anyways (and rightfully so).
dagmx 5y ago
What tech from a decade ago are you talking about? This is one of the first devices,at least the first in the consumer price point, to have this functionality at this high fidelity.
- potatolicious 5y ago
  Yeah... I don't remember any kind of low-latency high-res VR video-passthrough from 2011 (or anything even close to that year)... not to mention anything at a consumer price point. I suppose FB now falls under the usual umbrella of Apple criticism: they implemented something well, for which the possibility has been known in the industry for some time, and so we gotta slag on them for not inventing it? I continue to have strong reservations about an ad company (especially that has such a dodgy history with user privacy) running this platform, but the technical achievements from FBRL are quite (pun intended) real.
neither_color 5y ago
As a Quest 2 owner I'd love some competition but nothing comes close to its feature set at its price point. Valve index or HP Reverb may have marginally higher resolutions, but Quest 2 is both standalone AND does PCVR/Steam completely wirelessly. For what its worth it's easier to sideload apps on a quest than an iphone, and I've gotten random android utilities to run on mine, most importantly Mullvad VPN. You can install a custom app launcher and a utility that lets you instantly access it by double clicking the side button, letting you skip all of facebook's stuff. You can browse the open app catalog here: https://sidequestvr.com/ https://sidequestvr.com/ Between the oculus store, sidequest, Steam, and dropping in android APKs the device is a lot less closed than you think. Would I prefer if it was facebook account free? Yes but I dont know who else has the cash to compete with facebook on this one.
- MikusR 5y ago
  Quest 2 has higher resolution than Index. And if you look at pixels per degree then Quest 2 has almost twice the resolution of Index.
smoldesu 5y ago
I own a Quest 1, and I've got every bone to pick with Facebook imaginable. However, the Oculus Passthrough implementation (and their 'guardian' feature, for that matter) is unparalleled. It's many times more dependable than the SteamVR safety features, and surprisingly low-latency. I'm not at all surprised that it's local.
MikusR 5y ago
It's using https://www.khronos.org/openxr/ https://www.khronos.org/openxr/

by Iv 5y ago

LambdaComplex 5y ago

And if they didn't write that paragraph? It's Facebook, so you'd be suspicious anyways (and rightfully so).

dagmx 5y ago

What tech from a decade ago are you talking about? This is one of the first devices,at least the first in the consumer price point, to have this functionality at this high fidelity.

potatolicious 5y ago
Yeah... I don't remember any kind of low-latency high-res VR video-passthrough from 2011 (or anything even close to that year)... not to mention anything at a consumer price point. I suppose FB now falls under the usual umbrella of Apple criticism: they implemented something well, for which the possibility has been known in the industry for some time, and so we gotta slag on them for not inventing it? I continue to have strong reservations about an ad company (especially that has such a dodgy history with user privacy) running this platform, but the technical achievements from FBRL are quite (pun intended) real.

neither_color 5y ago

As a Quest 2 owner I'd love some competition but nothing comes close to its feature set at its price point. Valve index or HP Reverb may have marginally higher resolutions, but Quest 2 is both standalone AND does PCVR/Steam completely wirelessly. For what its worth it's easier to sideload apps on a quest than an iphone, and I've gotten random android utilities to run on mine, most importantly Mullvad VPN. You can install a custom app launcher and a utility that lets you instantly access it by double clicking the side button, letting you skip all of facebook's stuff. You can browse the open app catalog here: https://sidequestvr.com/ https://sidequestvr.com/ Between the oculus store, sidequest, Steam, and dropping in android APKs the device is a lot less closed than you think. Would I prefer if it was facebook account free? Yes but I dont know who else has the cash to compete with facebook on this one.

MikusR 5y ago
Quest 2 has higher resolution than Index. And if you look at pixels per degree then Quest 2 has almost twice the resolution of Index.

smoldesu 5y ago

I own a Quest 1, and I've got every bone to pick with Facebook imaginable. However, the Oculus Passthrough implementation (and their 'guardian' feature, for that matter) is unparalleled. It's many times more dependable than the SteamVR safety features, and surprisingly low-latency. I'm not at all surprised that it's local.

MikusR 5y ago

It's using https://www.khronos.org/openxr/ https://www.khronos.org/openxr/