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I like the visual style and the conceptualization, but is anything about it really new? Not trying to be dismissive, I just looked at some structural and projec

I like the visual style and the conceptualization, but is anything about it really new? Not trying to be dismissive, I just looked at some structural and projectional editors some time ago and this seems to have very similar ideas. JetBrains MPS and Lamdu[1] come to mind, but there are many others. There's also a subreddit[2] for this sort of thing. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skhP6LcbRTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skhP6LcbRTs [2] https://reddit.com/r/nosyntax https://reddit.com/r/nosyntax

amitport 5y ago
more specifically, there is a list of such projects in: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosyntax/wiki/projects https://www.reddit.com/r/nosyntax/wiki/projects
- danwills 5y ago
  This is the first time I've been totally prevented from reading something on Reddit by the pop-up, it used to let me through eventually! Now it seems to just ditch the url I wanted and goes to 'popular' instead! (Opera mobile Android) Why did they do that? Is (usage of) the app really that much more valuable to them?
  - danwills 5y ago
    Ah derp! Works great with "request desktop site" turned on.
  - Tempest1981 5y ago
    https://old.reddit.com/r/nosyntax/wiki/projects https://old.reddit.com/r/nosyntax/wiki/projects
    - danwills 5y ago
      Thanks I did not know about that! Works heaps better I reckon!
bookofsand 5y ago
I'd love to hear more about MPS. I tried looking into it, but the 'getting started' tutorials involved tens of files with arcane (for a novice) logic, so I gave up.
dm_0ney 5y ago
Yeah! For one thing, tylr makes it possible to make sub- and cross-structural selections, which isn't possible in other structure editors. Try typing `2 + 3 * 4` in MPS and selecting `* 4` or even `2 + 3`—you can't because they don't correspond to abstract syntactic terms. tylr understands these sorts of arbitrary range selections and makes sure you manipulate them in reasonable ways (eg see https://twitter.com/dm_0ney/status/1414742962442014720?s=20 https://twitter.com/dm_0ney/status/1414742962442014720?s=20).

amitport 5y ago

more specifically, there is a list of such projects in: https://www.reddit.com/r/nosyntax/wiki/projects https://www.reddit.com/r/nosyntax/wiki/projects

danwills 5y ago
This is the first time I've been totally prevented from reading something on Reddit by the pop-up, it used to let me through eventually! Now it seems to just ditch the url I wanted and goes to 'popular' instead! (Opera mobile Android) Why did they do that? Is (usage of) the app really that much more valuable to them?
- danwills 5y ago
  Ah derp! Works great with "request desktop site" turned on.
- Tempest1981 5y ago
  https://old.reddit.com/r/nosyntax/wiki/projects https://old.reddit.com/r/nosyntax/wiki/projects
  - danwills 5y ago
    Thanks I did not know about that! Works heaps better I reckon!

bookofsand 5y ago

I'd love to hear more about MPS. I tried looking into it, but the 'getting started' tutorials involved tens of files with arcane (for a novice) logic, so I gave up.

dm_0ney 5y ago

Yeah! For one thing, tylr makes it possible to make sub- and cross-structural selections, which isn't possible in other structure editors. Try typing `2 + 3 * 4` in MPS and selecting `* 4` or even `2 + 3`—you can't because they don't correspond to abstract syntactic terms. tylr understands these sorts of arbitrary range selections and makes sure you manipulate them in reasonable ways (eg see https://twitter.com/dm_0ney/status/1414742962442014720?s=20 https://twitter.com/dm_0ney/status/1414742962442014720?s=20).