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Are you suggesting that it's vice versa? Because it seems SpaceX (even from its name) has always had a MUCH bigger vision than blue origin. Were Blue Origin pur
by onethought 5y ago
Are you suggesting that it's vice versa? Because it seems SpaceX (even from its name) has always had a MUCH bigger vision than blue origin. Were Blue Origin pursuing reusability before SpaceX?
Bezos getting into electric cars, Blue Origin trying to get into Satellite Internet it always reeks of sub-par copycatness
- cma 5y agoYes. > Charon made its only test flight at Moses Lake, Washington on March 5, 2005. It flew to an altitude of 96 m (316 ft) before returning for a controlled landing near the liftoff point. The name is more ambitious too as it isn't just about exploration but expansion. Rivian was also founded at the same time as Musk became a retroactive fouder-in-name of Tesla.
- onethought 5y agoFair point. I wonder what the reason for the lack of output is. They’ve yet to make an orbital launch vehicle, and can only land from a straight up launch… that feels like an easier problem to solve. Meanwhile SpaceX are onto their 3rd/4th generation of launch vehicle and are doing more launches than everyone else combined. Tesla when Elon “took over” made the roadster (a drive train for a lotus Elise), no real brand and no real identity. The founder-in-name is a pretty shitty dig. He has been directly involved in the Model S/X/3/Y Wozniak built the Apple II. Is Jobs less of a founder?
- cma 5y agoIMO Musk is more like if Ronald Wayne had joined late and started being called founder through a lawuit settlement over something bad he had done, then took over and bailed out his cousin's company he had a financial interest in using a fraudulent merger. Maybe with the energy/grid connection more of a Kenneth Lay.
- onethought 5y agoFraudulent merger that was voted for by 85% of shareholders? That has done nothing but increase Shareholder value. Yep, absolute criminals!
- cma 5y agoFraud can increase shareholder value when a company is in speculative stages. Cheaper than a normal roof!
- onethought 5y agoSo what was the fraud?
- cma 5y agoOne part was the fake shingle demo.
- onethought 5y agoI'm confused which one you mean, shingle is not a term used in my locale. The roof tiles? Are the roof tiles fake?
- cma 5y agoYeah the demoed roof tiles pushing through the SolarCity acquisition were fake mockups. Later they never got them to work near the price point that pushed the deal through and now have a redesign making them close to the size of small panels.
- onethought 5y agoAnd it’s certain it was fraud and not r&d not able to achieve the results they initially thought they could?
- amznthrwaway 5y agoBlue Origin was actively testing reusable rockets before SpaceX even existed.