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Is your assertion that only white people can uphold an inherently racist system?

ghufran_syed 5y ago
“inherently racist”? Inherent: “existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute.” Once you define something as “racist”, then it’s not hard to conclude it’s “racist”. Sounds a lot like the christian doctrine of “original sin”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin “Is it your assertion that only white people contain original sin?” - yup, both sentences seem equally meaningful IMO.
- void_mint 5y ago
  It's just so interesting that you'd try to sidestep my question by bringing up religion, and then just asking my question back to me. Do you think black people can't make decisions that are negative for other black people? Do you think every woman votes entirely for feminist movements? If yes, I have a bridge to sell you. If no, you seem to have answered my original question more honestly than your first attempt.
- rhizome 5y ago
  Race doesn't exist in humans. Races are subspecies, and homo sapiens doesn't have those. "Race" is a concept maintained to exist by people who think society should be organized by ethnicity, and those people are called racists. Racists have an extensive literature supporting this fundamentally fallacious worldview, stretching back centuries. In the US, who has benefited from the historical ethnic organization of society, and who might feel they're losing something when society is organized that way less than it used to be? "You will not replace us!" they chant. >Once you define something as “racist”, then it’s not hard to conclude it’s “racist”. As I laid out, racism can be defined in concrete terms that, as it happens, don't constitute a tautology. "Original sin" is entirely fictional, invented to convice people that they are fundamentally guilty of something, a guilt from which release is inconceivable. This was the innovation of Christianity: you were born with a debt that cannot be relieved.

“inherently racist”? Inherent: “existing in something as a permanent, essential, or characteristic attribute.” Once you define something as “racist”, then it’s not hard to conclude it’s “racist”. Sounds a lot like the christian doctrine of “original sin”: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_sin “Is it your assertion that only white people contain original sin?” - yup, both sentences seem equally meaningful IMO.

void_mint 5y ago
It's just so interesting that you'd try to sidestep my question by bringing up religion, and then just asking my question back to me. Do you think black people can't make decisions that are negative for other black people? Do you think every woman votes entirely for feminist movements? If yes, I have a bridge to sell you. If no, you seem to have answered my original question more honestly than your first attempt.
rhizome 5y ago
Race doesn't exist in humans. Races are subspecies, and homo sapiens doesn't have those. "Race" is a concept maintained to exist by people who think society should be organized by ethnicity, and those people are called racists. Racists have an extensive literature supporting this fundamentally fallacious worldview, stretching back centuries. In the US, who has benefited from the historical ethnic organization of society, and who might feel they're losing something when society is organized that way less than it used to be? "You will not replace us!" they chant. >Once you define something as “racist”, then it’s not hard to conclude it’s “racist”. As I laid out, racism can be defined in concrete terms that, as it happens, don't constitute a tautology. "Original sin" is entirely fictional, invented to convice people that they are fundamentally guilty of something, a guilt from which release is inconceivable. This was the innovation of Christianity: you were born with a debt that cannot be relieved.