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Or tax water at 0.25 cents per gallon. Someone buying 8 oz at the airport won’t notice. Water is scarce because in a lot of cases water is free
by whoknowswhat11 5y ago
Or tax water at 0.25 cents per gallon.
Someone buying 8 oz at the airport won’t notice.
Water is scarce because in a lot of cases water is free
- samatman 5y agoEight bucks just for the water to draw a bath? No thanks. Residential and city use is a) a drop in the proverbial bucket (20% of California water use) and b) comes from a completely different system. For the most part it's drawn from snowmelt in the Sierras, and even when drought gets pretty bad it's been sustainable. Fingers crossed it will stay that way. Really it's farmers who should pay for water, and hard limits on aquifer withdrawal. They'll hate it but there's not enough to go around and I don't see an alternative. Also worth pointing out that California is an enormous place and what applies to the Central and Imperial Valleys doesn't apply to, say, the San Joaquin Delta. There's no good reason to stop growing rice in the latter, because the acre-feet of water which go into doing so are just going to flow directly into the Bay otherwise. Maybe we could pay for more of it to be diverted into the Central Valley if there was some sort of profit in it. Water auctions, say.
- inetknght 5y ago> Eight bucks just for the water to draw a bath? No thanks. That's the cost of living in a desert.
- whoknowswhat11 5y agoIt’s a made up number - no one normal uses this much water in a bath
- admax88q 5y agoThey pretty clearly confused 0.25 cents with $0.25
- samatman 5y agoYep that's what happened. In my defense, it's common "greengrocerese" to list a price that way. If limes are shown as "0.10¢ ea." on a handwritten card, you're not getting ten for a penny. I still think taxing residential water is irrelevant, and that the difference between buying water at auction from the state and paying a tax for that water to the state, is that auction is better because price discovery tends to be.
- whoknowswhat11 5y agoThe idea here is to set what appears to be a ridiculously low tax that applies to everyone. No carvouts so reduces arguments about fairness. This highlight the large water uses (usually free in the millions of gallons). If you aren't willing to say a gallon of water is worth a quarter of a penny - then we can usually stop talking about any supposed shortages. Retail / urban water use (ie, a bottle of water at the store, often 1/8th of a gallon - this tax is irrelevant obviously) already is wildly higher in cost than the "free" groundwater and river water folks are using.
- whoknowswhat11 5y agoIf you use 3,200 per bath you should be in jail. That is seriously a ridiculous waste of water per bath. That’s years worth of baths for most people - average cost per bath at 0.25 cents per gallon would be 7 cents. Realize farmers use water measured in ACRE feet
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- nightfly 5y agoThey misread 0.25 cents as $0.25 or 25¢
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y agoAn unfortunate reality is that a lot of signage also makes this mistake and advertises things like "0.25 cents per gallon" with the intent to mean 25¢/gallon. The poster's confusion is understandable.
- bbarnett 5y agohttps://consumerist.com/2010/02/23/verizon-didnt-know-difference-between-difference-between-002-and-00002/ https://consumerist.com/2010/02/23/verizon-didnt-know-differ...
- whoknowswhat11 5y agoAhh - that helps
- bcrosby95 5y agoEven in the most water efficient cities people use 40 gallons per day. You're talking $10 per person per day just for water. A family of four would spend at least $1,200 per month on water. Even desalination is way cheaper than 25 cents per gallon.
- ridgeguy 5y agoI think OP wrote .25¢/gallon, not 25¢/gallon.
- whoknowswhat11 5y agoWater would cost $12 per month which is fair and lower than almost all existing urban water costs . A corner store sells water for $$ per gallon. The tax on a bottle would be small fraction of a penny
- mattashii 5y ago40 gallons per day, aka roughly 180L. How would I even use that much water? My estimate for own use gets to about 120L, with fairly pessimistically high values: 20L /toilet flush, x 3 30L /shower, 5L /dishes, 20L /laundry x ~ 0.2 1L for drinking What in the world would I need to drain another 40L / 8 gallons into?
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- koolba 5y agoOwn a property with a lawn or garden.
- FractalParadigm 5y agoSounds like the easiest solution to that is to do-away with non-native plants (i.e. Kentucky bluegrass, which could be considered an invasive species in North America) and do something more along the lines of what the OP did in this Reddit post*[0], a wildflower alternative of all-native plants (and although it's only a small section this year, OP claims their parents have expressed interest in expanding it). It requires basically zero maintenance, and is incredibly beneficial to the local environment. [0]: https://redd.it/oph88p https://redd.it/oph88p *It's pointed out a few times that only a few of the plants are local native species, many aren't North American at all.
- dghughes 5y agoI always find it amazing how bottled water is seen as terrible yet bottles of pop/soda is never spoken about. Pop is 90% to 99% water and far worse for people than just water even the diet types.
- spiderice 5y agoI think the answer is that there is no other reasonable way to deliver pop/soda besides bottles. Whereas we have infrastructure for water delivery. I'm a big bottled water drinker, but if I had to make an argument for why bottled water makes less sense than pop/soda, that would be it.