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Chernobyl is one of the main reasons the USSR collapsed. Communist parties, as always, cover up disasters to maintain "stability" (ie. credibility as the only
by redis_mlc 5y ago
Chernobyl is one of the main reasons the USSR collapsed.
Communist parties, as always, cover up disasters to maintain "stability" (ie. credibility as the only governing party.)
The Chernobyl coverup became public, discrediting the party as incompetent at governing.
(At the moment the CCP is attempting to coverup a flood that entered a subway system and a major vehicle tunnel, possibly drowning 1,000 people. Witnesses are being warned to maintain the "local image.")
"Cars trapped in tunnel amid floods in China; Family washed away by mudslides | China in Focus"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjTMfgGlUcE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjTMfgGlUcE
Let this be a lesson to US Marxists and their useful idiots.
- peakaboo 5y agoAmerica is following the same path. Massive censorship on all social platforms about vaccine damage, and only positive information about the vaccine in the mass media. I think this vaccination will be similar to chernobyl when looking back. People will be wondering why everyone went along with it.
- gambiting 5y ago>>Massive censorship on all social platforms about vaccine damage, I know this is just a low-tier trolling attempt, but sure, let me take the bait this one time - what damage exactly?
- Arech 5y agoYou obviously know close to nothing about real USSR. There were HUGE amount of very different (and quite known to citizens) disasters before Chernobyl and Chernobyl by itself added almost nothing to what people already knew about their country and regime. Moreover handling of Chernobyl consequences was a much better than handling of other disasters of the past. So you point about Chernobyl being at least somewhat visible reason in USSR collapse is totally invalid. It may have played some role, but no bigger than minuscule comparing to other reasons.
- drran 5y agoChornobyl was very different from any previous disaster or mass murdering. For many decades, USSR propaganda pictured nuclear as the solution for all future problems. «Nuclear energy + intelligent robots = communism». And then you have nuclear disaster and no robots.
- Arech 5y agoNot very much different, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayak https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mayak for a list of issues with only one nuclear related facility for example. Regarding the else you have just written about... It's just so minuscule comparing to the real issues USSR and it's citizens had that I don't even know what to say about it. Just read some trustworthy books or even wikipedia about economics situation in late USSR and forget all you've just said. You literally don't give a shit about some fancy robots and nuclear disasters in some distant places when you have close to nothing to eat and nothing to put on.
- drran 5y agoI don't need to read books about USSR or Chornobyl. :-)
- orbital-decay 5y agoHuh? Mayak was a top secret military facility in a fairly remote area. Its incidents and disasters were only unclassified after the breakup, and weren't known to the population. Chernobyl, on the other hand, was impossible to hide.
- vilius 5y agoI recommend reading Lenin's Tomb: The Last Days of the Soviet Empire. It is an elaborate attempt to figure out the reasons behind the collapse. According to the author Chernobyl played a major role. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Tomb:_The_Last_Days_of_the_Soviet_Empire https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Tomb:_The_Last_Days_...
- andrepd 5y agoI don't mean to derail the conversation, but "Marxism" is a body of political and economic thought. Authoritarians who call themselves communists are... a different thing, simply. Otherwise there wouldn't be a word in left-wing circles to describe the maniacs who apologise for those regimes like the USSR or China (the word is 'Tankies')
- redis_mlc 5y ago> "Marxism" is a body of political and economic thought. Marxism is considered to be just one step from Communism. I suggest you learn about the lives of Marx and Lenin before being their apologist - they were vile people even before the horrors of Communism.
- antifa 5y ago> Let this be a lesson to US Marxists and their useful idiots. TIL Marxism causes natural disaters, which apparently don't happen in the United States.
- redis_mlc 5y ago1) Chernobyl was not a natural disaster. 2) Coverup is the standard playbook under Communism to maintain credibility. Stop being a useful idiot.