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Surely one could not just make up a totally fake birth certificate from nothing and have any licensing office take that seriously? Surely there are additional e

Surely one could not just make up a totally fake birth certificate from nothing and have any licensing office take that seriously? Surely there are additional electronic records or other security features?

djrogers 5y ago
No, one could not do that. You’d need at least a real name with a valid SSN who’s birthplace and DOB matches what you’re trying to get issued. Definitely possible, but more work than just completely faking up a couple of papers.
bombcar 5y ago
Yeah it’s cross-referenced if possible. The hot shit is to use a baptismal record instead (accepted most anywhere but usually found only for older people).
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zxcvbn4038 5y ago
I know you can purchase books of identity documents from various locations and years and those give details of the various security features that were present and material samples to compare with but I’ve never encountered anyone using them. Usually it’s just making sure I have all the documents, compare with my application, then go stand in line for a picture. Though when I applied for the trusted traveler program they did keep my documents for a few weeks so they might have been doing that sort of verification.
- jonathanlydall 5y ago
  When I did Customer Service at Blizzard EU many years ago they had a product with a catalogue of samples of different passports and identity documents which we could use to compare with the image we had received from someone claiming ownership of an account. It was most amusing when the document you were trying to validate had the exact same person’s photograph as in the sample document.
tedmiston 5y ago
I'm sure an electronic database of birth certificates exists somewhere to handle the case where an original is lost. But I do not think the BMV / DMV does anything to validate your birth certificate itself electronically.

djrogers 5y ago

No, one could not do that. You’d need at least a real name with a valid SSN who’s birthplace and DOB matches what you’re trying to get issued. Definitely possible, but more work than just completely faking up a couple of papers.

bombcar 5y ago

Yeah it’s cross-referenced if possible. The hot shit is to use a baptismal record instead (accepted most anywhere but usually found only for older people).

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zxcvbn4038 5y ago

I know you can purchase books of identity documents from various locations and years and those give details of the various security features that were present and material samples to compare with but I’ve never encountered anyone using them. Usually it’s just making sure I have all the documents, compare with my application, then go stand in line for a picture. Though when I applied for the trusted traveler program they did keep my documents for a few weeks so they might have been doing that sort of verification.

jonathanlydall 5y ago
When I did Customer Service at Blizzard EU many years ago they had a product with a catalogue of samples of different passports and identity documents which we could use to compare with the image we had received from someone claiming ownership of an account. It was most amusing when the document you were trying to validate had the exact same person’s photograph as in the sample document.

tedmiston 5y ago

I'm sure an electronic database of birth certificates exists somewhere to handle the case where an original is lost. But I do not think the BMV / DMV does anything to validate your birth certificate itself electronically.