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This article is specifically about the UC system, which has been banned by Proposition 209 since 1996 from considering an applicant's race when making admission

This article is specifically about the UC system, which has been banned by Proposition 209 since 1996 from considering an applicant's race when making admissions decisions. It might matter at private schools or in other states, though. It might surprise people who only know California by reputation and assume it is completely full of raging lefties, but affirmative action measures have been pretty soundly rejected by voters many times in the past three decades and the state has not been allowed to implement any of them.

an_opabinia 5y ago
Dropping the SAT is an affirmative action measure.
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mannerheim 5y ago
California has a significant Asian population. In my experience, many older Chinese Americans are completely apolitical, but one thing they do care about is that their children get into a good college. They exerted significant pressure the last time repealing Prop 209 was proposed by calling and writing their elected officials.
- crackercrews 5y ago
  The last time 209 was up for repeal was last year. Elected officials were not involved. It was up for popular vote, and it failed. I think the margin was even wider than when 209 was first put in place. The pro-209 campaign was outspent something like $27M to $1.6M but still prevailed.
  - mannerheim 5y ago
    Ah, my mistake, I was thinking of the attempt in 2012.
  - usaar333 5y ago
    It was a legislature introduced constitutional amendment; the legislature was heavily involved by virtue of voting to put it on the ballot.
3GuardLineups 5y ago
Asians in California (rightly) don't want to be discriminated against so that white liberals can pat themselves on the back
diognesofsinope 5y ago
That's because Richard Sander from UCLA Law has demonstrated fairly well that there's a really good chance that affirmative action is a net negative for those it's trying to help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sander https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sander They should oppose it because it likely harms black people.

an_opabinia 5y ago

Dropping the SAT is an affirmative action measure.

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mannerheim 5y ago

California has a significant Asian population. In my experience, many older Chinese Americans are completely apolitical, but one thing they do care about is that their children get into a good college. They exerted significant pressure the last time repealing Prop 209 was proposed by calling and writing their elected officials.

crackercrews 5y ago
The last time 209 was up for repeal was last year. Elected officials were not involved. It was up for popular vote, and it failed. I think the margin was even wider than when 209 was first put in place. The pro-209 campaign was outspent something like $27M to $1.6M but still prevailed.
- mannerheim 5y ago
  Ah, my mistake, I was thinking of the attempt in 2012.
- usaar333 5y ago
  It was a legislature introduced constitutional amendment; the legislature was heavily involved by virtue of voting to put it on the ballot.

3GuardLineups 5y ago

Asians in California (rightly) don't want to be discriminated against so that white liberals can pat themselves on the back

diognesofsinope 5y ago

That's because Richard Sander from UCLA Law has demonstrated fairly well that there's a really good chance that affirmative action is a net negative for those it's trying to help. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sander https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Sander They should oppose it because it likely harms black people.