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You can't sanction publicly available information. By that logic every crypto or blockchain website or video on the internet not blocked in North Korea is guilt

by eloff 5y ago

You can't sanction publicly available information. By that logic every crypto or blockchain website or video on the internet not blocked in North Korea is guilty of violating the sanctions. This doesn't make any sense, and I feel really bad for people like Griffith getting ground beneath the treads of the unthinking legal machine here. And shame on the judges for not slapping this law down, because that's they're job to protect people from unthinking and unfair application of the law.

nucleardog 5y ago
> By that logic every crypto or blockchain website or video on the internet not blocked in North Korea is guilty of violating the sanctions. Making something available on the internet has non-illegal purposes. Specifically flying somewhere that is sanctioned and presenting the information specifically to them has no non-illegal purpose. If you drop a $20 bill on the street and a member of a terrorist organization picks it up, it's not really funding terrorism just because you didn't explicitly ensure whoever found it was allowed to have it. If you go find a terrorist organization and give them $20, you've funded terrorism. Intent matters.
- eloff 5y ago
  Your argument makes a lot of sense. What I don't understand though, is if you share publicly available information, how have you done any harm? How can you have violated sanctions? Then again if you gave aviation lectures to Al Qaeda after 911, you're definitely doing something wrong, even if it's publicly available information.
  - rualca 5y ago
    > is if you share publicly available information, how have you done any harm? Even if your assistance adds low-value, it's still assistance. Moreover, I don't believe it's reasonable to ignore the fact that a renowned Ethereum dev providing assistance to a hostile regime, regardless of how lame, does have a goal of conveying credibility and help push public acceptance. As a similar example, see for example how Snowden was blindsided by a guy trying to leverage Snowden's attendance as a way to buy him credibility. https://www.vice.com/en/article/epndnz/the-bizarre-case-of-snowden-and-a-get-rich-quick-real-estate-investing-conference https://www.vice.com/en/article/epndnz/the-bizarre-case-of-s...

by eloff 5y ago

nucleardog 5y ago

> By that logic every crypto or blockchain website or video on the internet not blocked in North Korea is guilty of violating the sanctions. Making something available on the internet has non-illegal purposes. Specifically flying somewhere that is sanctioned and presenting the information specifically to them has no non-illegal purpose. If you drop a $20 bill on the street and a member of a terrorist organization picks it up, it's not really funding terrorism just because you didn't explicitly ensure whoever found it was allowed to have it. If you go find a terrorist organization and give them $20, you've funded terrorism. Intent matters.

eloff 5y ago
Your argument makes a lot of sense. What I don't understand though, is if you share publicly available information, how have you done any harm? How can you have violated sanctions? Then again if you gave aviation lectures to Al Qaeda after 911, you're definitely doing something wrong, even if it's publicly available information.
- rualca 5y ago
  > is if you share publicly available information, how have you done any harm? Even if your assistance adds low-value, it's still assistance. Moreover, I don't believe it's reasonable to ignore the fact that a renowned Ethereum dev providing assistance to a hostile regime, regardless of how lame, does have a goal of conveying credibility and help push public acceptance. As a similar example, see for example how Snowden was blindsided by a guy trying to leverage Snowden's attendance as a way to buy him credibility. https://www.vice.com/en/article/epndnz/the-bizarre-case-of-snowden-and-a-get-rich-quick-real-estate-investing-conference https://www.vice.com/en/article/epndnz/the-bizarre-case-of-s...