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It does look like the statutory maximum for the offenses at issue combined is 280 years Is that not effectively a life sentence without the possibility of paro

It does look like the statutory maximum for the offenses at issue combined is 280 years Is that not effectively a life sentence without the possibility of parole? So the point of your response is to point out that he will not get life, but rather, up to 280 years? Well, no, every rumored problem isn't real, and every real problem isn't experienced by every prisoner at all (much less daily.) You're trying to argue that he might not experience every horror every day - just some of them, depending on the day? Rapes occur daily in prisons. He might not get raped every day, but he almost certainly will over 280 years in a high security prison (since you claim that is not a life sentence). The rape problem in US prisons is so bad that there is actually a law called PREA - the Prison Rape Elimination Act [1]. I see that pedantry is still alive and well among some on HN. [1] https://www.prearesourcecenter.org/about/prison-rape-elimination-act https://www.prearesourcecenter.org/about/prison-rape-elimina...

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Is that not effectively a life sentence without the possibility of parole? The claim was that he would be sentenced to life or hundreds od years based on the charges and the amount in controversy. I was pointing out that while the second option may be at least theoretically possible, the first was not. (Are the two practically equivalent? Sure, but the claim was that the charges would support either sentence, not that it would support a sentence materially ewut to life in prison.) > You're trying to argue that he might not experience every horror every day - just some of them, depending on the day? I’m pointing out that depending on which rumored horrors you consider, they might never occur in reality at all (rumor and fact arr different things), and even the ones that are factual horrors might never occur to the vast majority of prisoners, and even ones that are more common might never impact a particular prisoner and, yes, even the ones that happen to impact a particular prisoner often don’t do so daily, so the claim that he would be subjected to every rumored horror of US prisons every day of his sentence relies on so many levels of hyberbole as to be beyond absurd.

dragonwriter 5y ago

> Is that not effectively a life sentence without the possibility of parole? The claim was that he would be sentenced to life or hundreds od years based on the charges and the amount in controversy. I was pointing out that while the second option may be at least theoretically possible, the first was not. (Are the two practically equivalent? Sure, but the claim was that the charges would support either sentence, not that it would support a sentence materially ewut to life in prison.) > You're trying to argue that he might not experience every horror every day - just some of them, depending on the day? I’m pointing out that depending on which rumored horrors you consider, they might never occur in reality at all (rumor and fact arr different things), and even the ones that are factual horrors might never occur to the vast majority of prisoners, and even ones that are more common might never impact a particular prisoner and, yes, even the ones that happen to impact a particular prisoner often don’t do so daily, so the claim that he would be subjected to every rumored horror of US prisons every day of his sentence relies on so many levels of hyberbole as to be beyond absurd.