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“Biblical scholars” are often theologians: political officers rather than scientists, they are trained to lie about that. Amount the actual scholars, it’s pret

by trasz 5y ago

“Biblical scholars” are often theologians: political officers rather than scientists, they are trained to lie about that. Amount the actual scholars, it’s pretty much the consensus at this point.

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Define "actual scholar." If most scholars aren't actually scholars, you may be committing the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
- trasz 5y ago
  Scholar, as in somebody doing science. Science follows certain rules. Catholic theology explicitly rejects those rules, thus it’s not a science. There is a science researching those topics, it’s called Religious Studies. It is to theology what chemistry is to alchemy.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    Theology is study about religion. Science, by definition cannot apply to things such as determining whether spirits exist. But that doesn't mean that there aren't spirits floating around us, you can't prove that to be scientifically false either. Science also can't tell us if we have a soul, but that's a core element of almost all religions. By definition, Science does not work on Religion, but that does not make the religion false (because you could have a soul even though science cannot prove it), but rather shows you are hitting the limits of what Science alone can achieve. And it is not fair, in that case, to call a Bible Scholar not a Scholar because their field intrinsically cannot use what people call "Science."
    - trasz 5y ago
      Science can research religion just fine, like any other ideology and organization. No reason studying Catholicism would be any different from studying Communism, or just one of remaining thousands of religions and their gods. And it’s perfectly fair to call out someone who is pretending to be a scholar, despite being just a propaganda officer, trained to only repeat, never question.

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“Biblical scholars” are often theologians: political officers rather than scientists, they are trained to lie about that. Amount the actual scholars, it’s pret

by trasz 5y ago

gjsman-1000 5y ago
Define "actual scholar." If most scholars aren't actually scholars, you may be committing the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
- trasz 5y ago
  Scholar, as in somebody doing science. Science follows certain rules. Catholic theology explicitly rejects those rules, thus it’s not a science. There is a science researching those topics, it’s called Religious Studies. It is to theology what chemistry is to alchemy.
  - gjsman-1000 5y ago
    Theology is study about religion. Science, by definition cannot apply to things such as determining whether spirits exist. But that doesn't mean that there aren't spirits floating around us, you can't prove that to be scientifically false either. Science also can't tell us if we have a soul, but that's a core element of almost all religions. By definition, Science does not work on Religion, but that does not make the religion false (because you could have a soul even though science cannot prove it), but rather shows you are hitting the limits of what Science alone can achieve. And it is not fair, in that case, to call a Bible Scholar not a Scholar because their field intrinsically cannot use what people call "Science."
    - trasz 5y ago
      Science can research religion just fine, like any other ideology and organization. No reason studying Catholicism would be any different from studying Communism, or just one of remaining thousands of religions and their gods. And it’s perfectly fair to call out someone who is pretending to be a scholar, despite being just a propaganda officer, trained to only repeat, never question.