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All the best colleagues I've worked with aced the SAT and/or other standardized tests. I would hate to not be able to refer to them while interviewing job candi

All the best colleagues I've worked with aced the SAT and/or other standardized tests. I would hate to not be able to refer to them while interviewing job candidates. Honestly, standardized test scores and some case study type questions would be sufficient to make a decision (along with 1 on 1 convos). I hope a decision like this opens a channel for smart people to get to employment without having to go to school or spend as much time in it. Edit: Some people are commenting that relying on scores from years ago can unfairly disadvantage people who have improved since then, and can generally be misleading. I agree with that. There should be a robust ecosystem of aptitude tests that are generally accepted, are as unbiased (culturally) as possible, and that can be retaken at any time. I think it's developing, as I've seen some examples of this in the hiring process.

kcatskcolbdi 5y ago
You......ask what people got on the SATs in your job interview?
- iammisc 5y ago
  For my first jobs out of college, I listed my SAT scores. EDIT: Don't understand the downvotes. I went to a top liberal arts college and they told us to, if it was over a certain number. It worked broadly speaking.
  - TigeriusKirk 5y ago
    I did too. It specifically came up in interviews as a reason they brought me in.
- sokoloff 5y ago
  One place I worked at did, by policy (D. E. Shaw & Co.). It was also the place with the densest collection of high-achieving, highly intelligent colleagues that I’ve ever experienced.
  - rejectedandsad 5y ago
    DE Shaw rejected me after I submitted my SATs (not once, but twice). What even is the point of living if society deems people like me to be inherently inferior for life?
    - sokoloff 5y ago
      Almost no place has this (fairly pointless IMO) policy in place. How predictive is the SAT test I took when I was 16 to my performance on the job a decade later?
      - rejectedandsad 5y ago
        You went to MIT so fairly predictive I think, as you just said it was the densest region of talent you’ve ever seen. If you saw my resume you’d understand how hopeless it is for people like me. It’s depressing.
      - netr0ute 5y ago
        You can actually take the SAT at any age, so I'd say there's no reason to not try and get a high score.
        briefcomment 5y ago
        +1
- mcguire 5y ago
  Well, it is basically an IQ test.
  - tomjakubowski 5y ago
    In other words, an SAT score is most meaningful at the low end of the range?
- munchbunny 5y ago
  Google used to ask college candidates (I was asked). I don't know if they still do.
rejectedandsad 5y ago
> All the best colleagues I've worked with aced the SAT and/or other standardized tests I did not do well on my SATs (1500/1600) - do you think there's any way to make up for this? Or am I supposed to be as unimpressive as I was at 17 forever?
- harmegido 5y ago
  I believe 1500/1600 is top 2%, so it's weird you'd consider that not "well" to me.
  - rejectedandsad 5y ago
    It’s not good enough to get into any top school, and top 2% is simply not good enough when it’s effectively the same as the top 20%.
    - netr0ute 5y ago
      It's enough to get into any state school, and many people in places like MIT/Harvard/other-here have scores around yours.
    - briefcomment 5y ago
      It's definitely in range [1]. You could also consider retaking it, or taking the GMAT, LSAT, or GRE. [1]https://www.thoughtco.com/sat-scores-for-ivy-league-admissions-788638 https://www.thoughtco.com/sat-scores-for-ivy-league-admissio...
      - rejectedandsad 5y ago
        That range includes triple legacies, Jared Kushner types and recruited athletes. I doubt it’s applicable to people like me.
FinalBriefing 5y ago
What world do you living where people share or remember their high school test scores? I've almost never heard of anyone caring about their SAT scores since freshman/sophomore year of college. The only people who still talk about them are the people who did really well on them complaining that they didn't help get them jobs once they graduated.

kcatskcolbdi 5y ago

You......ask what people got on the SATs in your job interview?

iammisc 5y ago
For my first jobs out of college, I listed my SAT scores. EDIT: Don't understand the downvotes. I went to a top liberal arts college and they told us to, if it was over a certain number. It worked broadly speaking.
- TigeriusKirk 5y ago
  I did too. It specifically came up in interviews as a reason they brought me in.
sokoloff 5y ago
One place I worked at did, by policy (D. E. Shaw & Co.). It was also the place with the densest collection of high-achieving, highly intelligent colleagues that I’ve ever experienced.
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  DE Shaw rejected me after I submitted my SATs (not once, but twice). What even is the point of living if society deems people like me to be inherently inferior for life?
  - sokoloff 5y ago
    Almost no place has this (fairly pointless IMO) policy in place. How predictive is the SAT test I took when I was 16 to my performance on the job a decade later?
    - rejectedandsad 5y ago
      You went to MIT so fairly predictive I think, as you just said it was the densest region of talent you’ve ever seen. If you saw my resume you’d understand how hopeless it is for people like me. It’s depressing.
    - netr0ute 5y ago
      You can actually take the SAT at any age, so I'd say there's no reason to not try and get a high score.
      - briefcomment 5y ago
        +1
mcguire 5y ago
Well, it is basically an IQ test.
- tomjakubowski 5y ago
  In other words, an SAT score is most meaningful at the low end of the range?
munchbunny 5y ago
Google used to ask college candidates (I was asked). I don't know if they still do.

rejectedandsad 5y ago

> All the best colleagues I've worked with aced the SAT and/or other standardized tests I did not do well on my SATs (1500/1600) - do you think there's any way to make up for this? Or am I supposed to be as unimpressive as I was at 17 forever?

harmegido 5y ago
I believe 1500/1600 is top 2%, so it's weird you'd consider that not "well" to me.
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  It’s not good enough to get into any top school, and top 2% is simply not good enough when it’s effectively the same as the top 20%.
  - netr0ute 5y ago
    It's enough to get into any state school, and many people in places like MIT/Harvard/other-here have scores around yours.
  - briefcomment 5y ago
    It's definitely in range [1]. You could also consider retaking it, or taking the GMAT, LSAT, or GRE. [1]https://www.thoughtco.com/sat-scores-for-ivy-league-admissions-788638 https://www.thoughtco.com/sat-scores-for-ivy-league-admissio...
    - rejectedandsad 5y ago
      That range includes triple legacies, Jared Kushner types and recruited athletes. I doubt it’s applicable to people like me.

FinalBriefing 5y ago

What world do you living where people share or remember their high school test scores? I've almost never heard of anyone caring about their SAT scores since freshman/sophomore year of college. The only people who still talk about them are the people who did really well on them complaining that they didn't help get them jobs once they graduated.