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A liberal state is not capable of granting religious freedom. All it can offer are religious rights, which means that you are allowed to imagine that you are Ch
by smhost 5y ago
A liberal state is not capable of granting religious freedom. All it can offer are religious rights, which means that you are allowed to imagine that you are Christian (or whatever other religious affiliation), and you may dress up in funny costumes and participate in funny symbolic rituals, but as soon as you attempt to exercise your religion in a way that contradicts the economic logic of our society, then the state has to crush you as ruthlessly as any political enemy.
To ask the liberal state to do otherwise is nonsense. If you want to exercise your religion in a way that exceeds the bounds that are set for you by the state, you have to step outside of your fantasy and engage directly in politics to convince the rest of society that your religion should have greater authority than the state. If you actually believe that your religion is greater than all others, then you should be able to prove it in the political realm.
- gjsman-1000 5y ago"you should be able to prove it in the political realm." Well, you've got Saudi Arabia, and countless Arab nations. You've got Israel, and there's also Vatican City (which is a nation inside Italy, albeit a small one). However they aren't exactly popular in liberal society...
- trasz 5y agoVatican isn’t a nation. It’s a country, created by Mussolini. It was never a real nation, only a bribe to convince the Church to not interfere with “fight against communism”.
- gjsman-1000 5y agoActually, the Vatican City is a remnant of the Papal States, a nominal nation that encompassed significant parts of Italy for much of the Middle Ages. And the Papal States were a descendant of the "Holy Roman Empire," which encompassed massive parts of Europe during the Middle Ages. Vatican City is the smallest that it's been in over a thousand years.
- taneq 5y ago> If you actually believe that your religion is greater than all others, then you should be able to prove it in the political realm. Wow, well put!