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> then the only hurdle would be (In New England) the lobsterman, the fishermen, and their political allies, who see offshore wind as a threat and an opportunit

> then the only hurdle would be (In New England) the lobsterman, the fishermen, and their political allies, who see offshore wind as a threat and an opportunity, respectively.

eloff 5y ago
I wonder if they're wrong to see it that way. Given these would "defend the area" from birds, that might actually increase fish stocks without really getting in the way of fishing in nearby waters. Also just marking some areas as off limits to fishing tends to improve fish stocks over time and benefit everyone. I'd be very curious to see if fish are capable of learning that they can use the turbines to shelter from both humans and birds. They're not that smart, but life tends to find a way.
- krisoft 5y ago
  Fish are already being attracted to floating stuff, so who knows? Maybe these will also attract them. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_aggregating_device https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_aggregating_device
mrguyorama 5y ago
Maine recently passed a law preventing offshore wind in our state waters :( . Our lobstering industry is very politically strong because they are very well united and put other political issues aside to improve the lobster industry. However, state waters only legally go out a few miles, and our (democratic) governor, while signing the law, specifically called out wanting offshore wind power in the federal waters off the coast, but we also have a shitload of mountaintops that could have wind power, and a few installations already, as well as our biggest state university having a hugely and important wind energy lab and facility
baud147258 5y ago
my brother is working on an off shore wind farm, of the cost of Normandy (should 10 km from the shore, near Courseulles, I think) and currently the biggest opposition is the local fishermen too

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> then the only hurdle would be (In New England) the lobsterman, the fishermen, and their political allies, who see offshore wind as a threat and an opportunit

by subpixel 5y ago

> then the only hurdle would be (In New England) the lobsterman, the fishermen, and their political allies, who see offshore wind as a threat and an opportunity, respectively.

eloff 5y ago
I wonder if they're wrong to see it that way. Given these would "defend the area" from birds, that might actually increase fish stocks without really getting in the way of fishing in nearby waters. Also just marking some areas as off limits to fishing tends to improve fish stocks over time and benefit everyone. I'd be very curious to see if fish are capable of learning that they can use the turbines to shelter from both humans and birds. They're not that smart, but life tends to find a way.
- krisoft 5y ago
  Fish are already being attracted to floating stuff, so who knows? Maybe these will also attract them. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_aggregating_device https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_aggregating_device
mrguyorama 5y ago
Maine recently passed a law preventing offshore wind in our state waters :( . Our lobstering industry is very politically strong because they are very well united and put other political issues aside to improve the lobster industry. However, state waters only legally go out a few miles, and our (democratic) governor, while signing the law, specifically called out wanting offshore wind power in the federal waters off the coast, but we also have a shitload of mountaintops that could have wind power, and a few installations already, as well as our biggest state university having a hugely and important wind energy lab and facility
baud147258 5y ago
my brother is working on an off shore wind farm, of the cost of Normandy (should 10 km from the shore, near Courseulles, I think) and currently the biggest opposition is the local fishermen too