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This is not a particularly strong article. Here's a much more data-backed one arguing similar points (though still with some bias): https://freddiedeboer.subst
by usaar333 5y ago
This is not a particularly strong article. Here's a much more data-backed one arguing similar points (though still with some bias): https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/you-arent-actually-mad-at-the-sats https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/you-arent-actually-mad-...
Issues with this particular article (addressed by above):
* It's ignoring the racial gap in SAT scores (and other standardized tests) that exists even after controlling for family income. A large part of the political narrative here (including the university backing Prop 16 which would allow it to consider race) is coming from this fact, not just the income gap in itself (Note that I don't think the university ever took the position that the tests were per se discriminatory, which the author claims).
* It's not really defining what "worst" school means; you need to be careful here as you might just be saying the tautological "students at schools with low-performing students on average on low performing". It's making the common claim these schools are underfunded, but on average, lower performing schools are receiving more money. (Example from LA - http://www.laalmanac.com/education/ed04m.php http://www.laalmanac.com/education/ed04m.php -- LAUSD, which some of the lowest ranking schools, is well over average funding - areas with top schools - e.g. Arcadia - get the least). Perhaps the author means "underfunded schools relative to what I think they should get", but that's a different statement.
* UC admission data for 2021 is out (https://ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/content-analysis/ug-admissions/ug-pages/admissions.html https://ucop.edu/institutional-research-academic-planning/co...), so it's possible to start objectively assessing the impact of the policy.
- b9a2cab5 5y agoThe idea that the SAT is somehow racist is quite laughable. If you controlled for both family income and hours spent per day on academics you'd probably get an equal result. Culture differences mean that Asians are forced by their parents to study longer and harder. As people have pointed out in this thread, parental involvement is the biggest contributing factor to student success, even more than income and school funding. If white/black/whatever parents aren't getting as involved as Asian parents then obviously even if you control for income there will be disproportionate outcomes. I will ask you this: why do you think black people are overrepresented in the NBA relative to their share of the population? Could it be because black culture highly values sports and black kids tend to spend more time than the average kid playing sports due to parental or cultural influence? That same logic applies to Asians and education.
- iammisc 5y ago> Could it be because black culture highly values sports and black kids tend to spend more time than the average kid playing sports due to parental or cultural influence? Americans love meritocracy and hard work when it comes to sports, and can't stand it when it comes to academics and the resulting income.
- endisneigh 5y agoWhere is your source that Asian people value education more than other racial groups? lmao