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Aligning enrollment with state demographics would require cutting the share of those students by almost two-thirds. My best friend growing up was Korean. I saw

Aligning enrollment with state demographics would require cutting the share of those students by almost two-thirds. My best friend growing up was Korean. I saw firsthand the amount of effort he put into his studies. Why should we allow any institution to invalidate his work because our culture produces lazier, dumber students? Why should we artificially prop up patterns of thought and behavior that have negative effects on the people subjected to it?

gedy 5y ago
From the article: "People in power today would much rather do something that seems to promote “equity” than make an evidence-based choice that could lead to accusations of racism. This is the kind of infuriating policy decision that looks like it is going to help poor, minority students but will actually harm them."
- visarga 5y ago
  Removes the motive to excel for all groups of students, why strive when you get accepted by quota instead of test score? It's how communist countries allocate admissions and jobs, what mattered most was not merit, but collusion to the party. So there was no reason to try to be very good in any field.
908B64B197 5y ago
I can only wonder if in a few years some company will have an unspoken rule about scoring candidates, thanks to all the affirmative action and "holistic admissions". With these policies, an Asian male has to be extremely talented to land a spot at a good state school/ivy.
- rejectedandsad 5y ago
  I'm an extremely unimpressive Asian male and I got into my state's flagship, which is considered a public ivy according to the 1985 list [0]. If going to a state school is beneath these people (and therefore, even associating with people like me is beneath them) then perhaps I'm perfectly fine with them feeling a tiny bit of discomfort. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy#Original_list_published_in_1985 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy#Original_list_publi...
- golemiprague 5y ago
  We already do those calculations in our heads. We know that many Asians got admitted because they worked very hard, not necessarily because they are very smart or because of good social intelligence. I am sure this affects the way they are perceived in the workforce, the same way people assume things about blacks or women. Usually those assumptions has some basis in reality and as much as you want you can't really control what people think deep down inside, even Stalin couldn't really change it and he used much stricter measurements.
rejectedandsad 5y ago
I worked really hard in high school and got basically nothing for it (went to an average college, and now have an average job). My message to your friend would be "tough".
- whoaisme 5y ago
  Basic people like you shouldn't be giving messages. You failed so I guess that means you'd prefer if everyone else fails too. I don't know why you're so bitter about your average life because you seem average in general.

gedy 5y ago

From the article: "People in power today would much rather do something that seems to promote “equity” than make an evidence-based choice that could lead to accusations of racism. This is the kind of infuriating policy decision that looks like it is going to help poor, minority students but will actually harm them."

visarga 5y ago
Removes the motive to excel for all groups of students, why strive when you get accepted by quota instead of test score? It's how communist countries allocate admissions and jobs, what mattered most was not merit, but collusion to the party. So there was no reason to try to be very good in any field.

908B64B197 5y ago

I can only wonder if in a few years some company will have an unspoken rule about scoring candidates, thanks to all the affirmative action and "holistic admissions". With these policies, an Asian male has to be extremely talented to land a spot at a good state school/ivy.

rejectedandsad 5y ago
I'm an extremely unimpressive Asian male and I got into my state's flagship, which is considered a public ivy according to the 1985 list [0]. If going to a state school is beneath these people (and therefore, even associating with people like me is beneath them) then perhaps I'm perfectly fine with them feeling a tiny bit of discomfort. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy#Original_list_published_in_1985 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy#Original_list_publi...
golemiprague 5y ago
We already do those calculations in our heads. We know that many Asians got admitted because they worked very hard, not necessarily because they are very smart or because of good social intelligence. I am sure this affects the way they are perceived in the workforce, the same way people assume things about blacks or women. Usually those assumptions has some basis in reality and as much as you want you can't really control what people think deep down inside, even Stalin couldn't really change it and he used much stricter measurements.

rejectedandsad 5y ago

I worked really hard in high school and got basically nothing for it (went to an average college, and now have an average job). My message to your friend would be "tough".

whoaisme 5y ago
Basic people like you shouldn't be giving messages. You failed so I guess that means you'd prefer if everyone else fails too. I don't know why you're so bitter about your average life because you seem average in general.