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> It's not "sales tax" Sure, it's "VAT" - but it's essentially the same thing. You pay it for almost everything you buy. There are some lower rates for food in

> It's not "sales tax" Sure, it's "VAT" - but it's essentially the same thing. You pay it for almost everything you buy. There are some lower rates for food in some places. But guess what, US has that too. > Nowhere Try this https://accace.com/payroll-calculator-romania/ https://accace.com/payroll-calculator-romania/

raverbashing 5y ago
Thanks for the link, but again you're taking the exception as the rule. Most countries don't work like that. (it's also possible that social security is deductible before income tax is levied as per this site but I'm not looking too deeply into it: https://expatcenter.ro/tax-guide/ https://expatcenter.ro/tax-guide/ )
- 988747 5y ago
  Romania also don't work like that, in principle. They are simply much poorer country than Norway. 30k EUR salary in Romania is upper middle class income, so it is heavily taxed. People making average wage pay much lower taxes. Also, if I get the linked calculator right, then it expects you to put MONTHLY salary, in RONs, not EUR. So, just putting 30000 there you get a monthly salary of over 6000 EUR, or 72k per year. And that's taxed at 41%.
  - flavius29663 5y ago
    Romania is much poorer than Norway, but the tax is the same - it's a flat tax rate. Play with the calculator and you'll see. The numbers are in RON - which is 5 times smaller than the dollar, and the value is implied to be monthly - but it makes no difference because of the flat rate. In other countries you might have tax brackets, but I know from experience that it's very easy to reach 45% total tax rate (not marginal). e.g. try Belgium, at 100k the state gets 50% https://www.belgiumtaxcalculator.com/?salary=100000&average=true&zip=&childrenUnderThree=0&childrenOverThree=0 https://www.belgiumtaxcalculator.com/?salary=100000&average=... Try UK. At 50k you pay "only" 26%, but then in the US you pay almost nothing, if you have a family with kids and use the deductions smartly.
    - raverbashing 5y ago
      True, Belgium is one of the highest. > but then in the US you pay almost nothing Well, not really. In NY that would be 27% (converted). And you pay 31% at $100k in NY (or 34% in 150k ) https://smartasset.com/taxes/new-york-tax-calculator https://smartasset.com/taxes/new-york-tax-calculator

raverbashing 5y ago

Thanks for the link, but again you're taking the exception as the rule. Most countries don't work like that. (it's also possible that social security is deductible before income tax is levied as per this site but I'm not looking too deeply into it: https://expatcenter.ro/tax-guide/ https://expatcenter.ro/tax-guide/ )

988747 5y ago
Romania also don't work like that, in principle. They are simply much poorer country than Norway. 30k EUR salary in Romania is upper middle class income, so it is heavily taxed. People making average wage pay much lower taxes. Also, if I get the linked calculator right, then it expects you to put MONTHLY salary, in RONs, not EUR. So, just putting 30000 there you get a monthly salary of over 6000 EUR, or 72k per year. And that's taxed at 41%.
- flavius29663 5y ago
  Romania is much poorer than Norway, but the tax is the same - it's a flat tax rate. Play with the calculator and you'll see. The numbers are in RON - which is 5 times smaller than the dollar, and the value is implied to be monthly - but it makes no difference because of the flat rate. In other countries you might have tax brackets, but I know from experience that it's very easy to reach 45% total tax rate (not marginal). e.g. try Belgium, at 100k the state gets 50% https://www.belgiumtaxcalculator.com/?salary=100000&average=true&zip=&childrenUnderThree=0&childrenOverThree=0 https://www.belgiumtaxcalculator.com/?salary=100000&average=... Try UK. At 50k you pay "only" 26%, but then in the US you pay almost nothing, if you have a family with kids and use the deductions smartly.
  - raverbashing 5y ago
    True, Belgium is one of the highest. > but then in the US you pay almost nothing Well, not really. In NY that would be 27% (converted). And you pay 31% at $100k in NY (or 34% in 150k ) https://smartasset.com/taxes/new-york-tax-calculator https://smartasset.com/taxes/new-york-tax-calculator