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We're going to quickly run out of names if every person we ever memorialize has to be without sin. I bet Isaac Newton was pretty racist, let's rename physics t
by Causality1 5y ago
We're going to quickly run out of names if every person we ever memorialize has to be without sin.
I bet Isaac Newton was pretty racist, let's rename physics to "pride math".
- echopurity 5y agoHow about just physics? "Newtonian physics" is a fake and outdated attribution anyway.
- whatshisface 5y agoNewtonian physics is a specific kind of physics distinct from other kinds which is why it has a sub-name.
- sp332 5y agoNewton only contributed the three laws of motion to the model. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newtonian_mechanics https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Newtonian_mechani... The model includes additions from Leibnitz, Euler, Lagrange, and others from around the same time. The name "classical mechanics" doesn't pretend that Newton came up with all that stuff.
- whatshisface 5y agoClassical mechanics includes everything that's not quantum, including general relativity and the Navier-Stokes equation. It is not a suitable term for Newtonian mechanics because it already refers to a much larger category.
- sp332 5y agoAccording to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_mechanics#History https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_mechanics#History, that's a recent change. It didn't used to include special or general relativity.
- whatshisface 5y agoWell obviously it couldn't include general relativity before it was discovered. :-)
- ajford 5y agoOr 'Classical Mechanics' as most university courses refer to it. Newtonian mechanics is an outdated name for simplified mechanics that approximate accurately for "normal" physics situations, at least normal for a human's daily life at this point in time. The opposite end of this spectrum is Relativistic Mechanics, which takes over when the approximations fall away at realms deviating far from normal, such as high mass systems, those at speeds approaching C, or Quantum Mechanics for small scale like atomic interactions.
- whatshisface 5y agoClassical mechanics wraps up general relativity, Newtonian mechanics, and analytic mechanics (which itself wraps up Hamiltonian mechanics and Lagrangian mechanics) into one name. It can also include fluid mechanics and other forms of continuum mechanics. Newtonian mechanics specifically refers to the formulation of finite-particle mechanics as a second order differential equation set in an inertial reference frame. Typical introductory physics classes teach Newtonian mechanics specifically.
- akomtu 5y agoNewtonian refers to a particular model of physics. There's also Ptolematic model, the GR model and many others. But Newtonian is the most popular.
- lovecg 5y ago> “We don’t call them Newton’s laws anymore,” an upperclassman at the school informs me. “We call them the three fundamental laws of physics. They say we need to ‘decenter whiteness,’ and we need to acknowledge that there’s more than just Newton in physics.” https://www.city-journal.org/the-miseducation-of-americas-elites https://www.city-journal.org/the-miseducation-of-americas-el...
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- only_as_i_fall 5y agoI think that's a bit hyperbolic. I think most backlash about memorialization of historic figures is related to modern social issues. Discrimination towards LGBT people is still a problem that society is coming to grips with. Webb was alive and working recently enough that it's almost certain there are still people alive who were directly harmed by his actions. This is not to say I necessarily agree with renaming the telescope, but that I do think you're drawing a false equivalence.
- Causality1 5y agoMemorializing someone is not the same as endorsing all of their opinions and actions. Naming a space telescope after James Webb doesn't glorify homophobia any more than building a statue of Martin Luther King Jr glorifies adultery and academic plagiarism.
- only_as_i_fall 5y agoWhen did I claim it was?
- threatofrain 5y agoBut Newton is at least a scientist. Webb is a bureaucrat whose name was memorialized as a surprise unilateral move.