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> how deeply associated dense, urban environments are with random violence and crime. > If I could live in an environment like Berlin, I might consider it You
by odiroot 5y ago
> how deeply associated dense, urban environments are with random violence and crime.
> If I could live in an environment like Berlin, I might consider it
You made me chuckle. Berlin is heavily associated with crime. There's multiple better and safer cities to live in Germany.
- ben_w 5y agoAssociated I can believe, but it doesn’t feel bad to be in it. Don’t get me wrong, when I was in a tiny quiet village in the UK I once came back from the local grocery shop to find my front door had bounced open instead of locking itself when I’d left and absolutely nothing happened as a result of this mistake, and I don’t expect the same here; and sure, Berlin has a lot of graffiti, but I don’t feel fundamentally unsafe in even the most loudly afearing places like Görlitzer Park or Alexanderplatz — I don’t even get why the latter is on the list of places people talk about when suggesting danger. Really, the worst I experience here is the fire brigade and ambulance sirens (and, confusingly, one time where the sirens were on a van marked “Netzgesellschaft entstörungsdienst”, which both Google and my own limited German think is something close to “Network company anti-jamming service”, which feels implausible).
- nisa 5y agoNetzgesellschaft Entstörungsdienst: It's an emergency service for gas leaks[1] - it may feel implausible but it's totally common in Germany to have a "Netzgesellschaft" or some other very generic name like "Wasserverband" (water organization). 1: https://www.nbb-netzgesellschaft.de/ueber-die-nbb/entstoerungsdienst/ https://www.nbb-netzgesellschaft.de/ueber-die-nbb/entstoerun...
- ben_w 5y agoThanks! :) (What felt implausible was my translation rather than anything else, and indeed you showed that it was an error on my part).
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- rufus_foreman 5y ago>> Berlin is heavily associated with crime Can't find 2020 numbers, but all of Germany had 720 murders in 2019. Last year Chicago, which is the main city in one metro area of one state in the US had 774. Chicago is around 2.5 million people, Germany is 84 million people. From an inner-city US perspective, violent crime in Germany basically does not exist.
- refurb 5y agoI assume people are worried about more than just murder?
- rufus_foreman 5y agoI know I am. Murder is a good proxy for other violent crime though, since it almost always gets reported, and other violent crimes don't.