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Almost all iOS apps are sending telemetry to data brokers like Facebook and the platform makes open source stuff extremely hard. It really is marginal when you

by swiley 5y ago

Almost all iOS apps are sending telemetry to data brokers like Facebook and the platform makes open source stuff extremely hard. It really is marginal when you look closer.

everdrive 5y ago
Yes, but only if you're foolish enough to install the apps. With Android, an individual app may or may not be a worse actor than it would be on an iOS device. But, it hardly matters since Google is primarily doing all the invasive tracking on an Android device, and you have zero control over this.
- swiley 5y ago
  >Yes, but only if you're foolish enough to install the apps If you won't install any apps why bother with a smartphone then?
  - eesmith 5y ago
    It's hard to even find a good feature phone these days. At least I'm looking for one now because my Nokia E5-03 died yesterday so now I have to figure out what to get. I want something small, that I can stick in my pocket and not worry about the screen, with days of standby battery life, and where I don't have to read and "agree" to pages of legalese. In the heyday of feature phones, I could pick one up for $20. Nowadays, those phones are designed for old people, and are more expensive than a cheap smart phone.
    - selfhoster11 5y ago
      I heard KaiOS phones are good, including the "Bananaphone" (aka Nokia 8110 4G) that can be had for very reasonable amounts.
      - eesmith 5y ago
        I just ordered a Cat B40 - https://www.catphones.com/en-gb/cat-b40/ https://www.catphones.com/en-gb/cat-b40/ . It uses KaiOS. :)
        eesmith 5y ago
        Frustratingly, it doesn't seem to have predictive text/auto-correct. :(
  - everdrive 5y ago
    In my case, my job requires it. Otherwise I would only have a feature phone.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    I get a ton of utility from the built in apps from Apple.
AnonC 5y ago
If you're someone who's able to figure out how to block such things on Android, then you'd be happy to know that this is possible on iOS by using apps like Lockdown that work completely on-device. [1] [1]: https://lockdownprivacy.com/ https://lockdownprivacy.com/
- swiley 5y ago
  My solution is to not run either; Having to take extra steps to block that is completely unacceptable.

by swiley 5y ago

Almost all iOS apps are sending telemetry to data brokers like Facebook and the platform makes open source stuff extremely hard. It really is marginal when you look closer.

everdrive 5y ago

Yes, but only if you're foolish enough to install the apps. With Android, an individual app may or may not be a worse actor than it would be on an iOS device. But, it hardly matters since Google is primarily doing all the invasive tracking on an Android device, and you have zero control over this.

swiley 5y ago
>Yes, but only if you're foolish enough to install the apps If you won't install any apps why bother with a smartphone then?
- eesmith 5y ago
  It's hard to even find a good feature phone these days. At least I'm looking for one now because my Nokia E5-03 died yesterday so now I have to figure out what to get. I want something small, that I can stick in my pocket and not worry about the screen, with days of standby battery life, and where I don't have to read and "agree" to pages of legalese. In the heyday of feature phones, I could pick one up for $20. Nowadays, those phones are designed for old people, and are more expensive than a cheap smart phone.
  - selfhoster11 5y ago
    I heard KaiOS phones are good, including the "Bananaphone" (aka Nokia 8110 4G) that can be had for very reasonable amounts.
    - eesmith 5y ago
      I just ordered a Cat B40 - https://www.catphones.com/en-gb/cat-b40/ https://www.catphones.com/en-gb/cat-b40/ . It uses KaiOS. :)
      - eesmith 5y ago
        Frustratingly, it doesn't seem to have predictive text/auto-correct. :(
- everdrive 5y ago
  In my case, my job requires it. Otherwise I would only have a feature phone.
- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  I get a ton of utility from the built in apps from Apple.

AnonC 5y ago

If you're someone who's able to figure out how to block such things on Android, then you'd be happy to know that this is possible on iOS by using apps like Lockdown that work completely on-device. [1] [1]: https://lockdownprivacy.com/ https://lockdownprivacy.com/

swiley 5y ago
My solution is to not run either; Having to take extra steps to block that is completely unacceptable.