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I love the backpedalling later about how great Vista is. Which was bollocks.

by hughrr 5y ago

tonyedgecombe 5y ago
That's pretty much what you'd expect though, the original email was never meant to become public. Companies are never upfront about their weaknesses.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
I disagree. Vista did have some problems, but this was because it introduced SuperCache (which worked in a way that did not match everyone's expectations), a new strategy for file copies (that didn't work better in a lot of cases), a new display server, and new driver models for networking, sound, and video in user space. Vista is when we stopped having to reboot for changing the video driver, where a sound driver crashing no longer bluescreened the system, and we got per-application volume controls at the OS level. Additionally, since it was new it was bloated and slow on current gen hardware and manufacturers often slapped "Vista Capable" stickers on computers that were really not ideal for it. As with most Windows versions, it was pretty solid by Service Pack 1. By 7 pretty much everything had been ironed out and consequently we remember 7 as the highest water mark since the peak, Win2k.
- hughrr 5y ago
  It had some problems because they mostly didn’t test it properly. That hasn’t changed now. Hence why the edge and windows alt tab integration actually broke alt tab on windows 10 RTM for nearly 6 months.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    Things are actually much much worse today in regards to testing. I don't think Microsoft even has testers for Windows these days, they just push updates to users and and force them to test.
- bigtex 5y ago
  I was able to crash Vista pre SP1 just by copying a few kb file to the network. It's file copy performance was very different from XP.
- auiya 5y ago
  Vista also introduced several crucial security features that were sorely needed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_safety_features_new_to_Windows_Vista https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_safety_features_n...
- 908B64B197 5y ago
  Vista changed the driver model (for the best), and some manufacturer quite simply never bothered to upgrade.
sys_64738 5y ago
Vista after the first SP resolved a lot of the issues if I recall correctly. But it was really overshadowed by 7.

I love the backpedalling later about how great Vista is. Which was bollocks.

by hughrr 5y ago

I love the backpedalling later about how great Vista is. Which was bollocks.

That's pretty much what you'd expect though, the original email was never meant to become public. Companies are never upfront about their weaknesses.

AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago

I disagree. Vista did have some problems, but this was because it introduced SuperCache (which worked in a way that did not match everyone's expectations), a new strategy for file copies (that didn't work better in a lot of cases), a new display server, and new driver models for networking, sound, and video in user space. Vista is when we stopped having to reboot for changing the video driver, where a sound driver crashing no longer bluescreened the system, and we got per-application volume controls at the OS level. Additionally, since it was new it was bloated and slow on current gen hardware and manufacturers often slapped "Vista Capable" stickers on computers that were really not ideal for it. As with most Windows versions, it was pretty solid by Service Pack 1. By 7 pretty much everything had been ironed out and consequently we remember 7 as the highest water mark since the peak, Win2k.

hughrr 5y ago
It had some problems because they mostly didn’t test it properly. That hasn’t changed now. Hence why the edge and windows alt tab integration actually broke alt tab on windows 10 RTM for nearly 6 months.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  Things are actually much much worse today in regards to testing. I don't think Microsoft even has testers for Windows these days, they just push updates to users and and force them to test.
bigtex 5y ago
I was able to crash Vista pre SP1 just by copying a few kb file to the network. It's file copy performance was very different from XP.
auiya 5y ago
Vista also introduced several crucial security features that were sorely needed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_safety_features_new_to_Windows_Vista https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_safety_features_n...
908B64B197 5y ago
Vista changed the driver model (for the best), and some manufacturer quite simply never bothered to upgrade.

sys_64738 5y ago

Vista after the first SP resolved a lot of the issues if I recall correctly. But it was really overshadowed by 7.