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> while presenting the appearance of being passionate about what you do during work Why would anyone want this? It's fake. Let's try to keep the IT world free

> while presenting the appearance of being passionate about what you do during work Why would anyone want this? It's fake. Let's try to keep the IT world free of as much BS as we can please. Don't follow this nonsense trends.

obedm 5y ago
Why? You don't need to be passionate about your work to be a great employee. Many days I don't feel like working and I'm not motivated. But I still do (I think) a great job and try my best. Passion is bullshit. Passion is useful in some cases, but it's not requirement to do a great job.
- xenocratus 5y ago
  I think the parent comment was more about the "fake" than about the "passion" - as in, don't fake something for the sake of getting a job, whatever that something is.
- ramesh31 5y ago
  >Passion is bullshit. Passion is useful in some cases, but it's not requirement to do a great job. I strongly disagree. Maybe for other professions, sure. But to write great software requires passion. Showing up and doing the bare minimum leads to the garbage software that proliferates the world today. Not that that really matters to the individual; if you're doing what's asked of you and nothing more, then more power to you for finding a good work life balance. But you simply cannot produce top quality software without being passionate about it.
  - obedm 5y ago
    Sucking at what you do != not being passionate. Passionate people can also suck at their jobs. I did some terrible things when I was inexperienced. There's nothing special about software. It's like asking the builder of your house how passionate they are about building houses. What I care about is how professional and experienced they are, not their passion.
puppet-master 5y ago
What's fake about showing initiative? I was under no illusion the young lad would be an ideal hire, but I'd have been even more impressed to discover post-hire that he'd hoodwinked me. You can't advertise for or buy that kind of intelligence

obedm 5y ago

Why? You don't need to be passionate about your work to be a great employee. Many days I don't feel like working and I'm not motivated. But I still do (I think) a great job and try my best. Passion is bullshit. Passion is useful in some cases, but it's not requirement to do a great job.

xenocratus 5y ago
I think the parent comment was more about the "fake" than about the "passion" - as in, don't fake something for the sake of getting a job, whatever that something is.
ramesh31 5y ago
>Passion is bullshit. Passion is useful in some cases, but it's not requirement to do a great job. I strongly disagree. Maybe for other professions, sure. But to write great software requires passion. Showing up and doing the bare minimum leads to the garbage software that proliferates the world today. Not that that really matters to the individual; if you're doing what's asked of you and nothing more, then more power to you for finding a good work life balance. But you simply cannot produce top quality software without being passionate about it.
- obedm 5y ago
  Sucking at what you do != not being passionate. Passionate people can also suck at their jobs. I did some terrible things when I was inexperienced. There's nothing special about software. It's like asking the builder of your house how passionate they are about building houses. What I care about is how professional and experienced they are, not their passion.

puppet-master 5y ago

What's fake about showing initiative? I was under no illusion the young lad would be an ideal hire, but I'd have been even more impressed to discover post-hire that he'd hoodwinked me. You can't advertise for or buy that kind of intelligence