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Oh no... How do I tell you this? People in North Korea don't have access to YouTube and the internet. Are you aware of what life is like for the people of Nor

Oh no... How do I tell you this? People in North Korea don't have access to YouTube and the internet. Are you aware of what life is like for the people of North Korea? Only a few select businessmen working for leaders of North Korea are ever allowed to leave and they usually travel to china for unknown business. Giving a talk like this in North Korea is like teaching businessmen how to engage in moving criminal/ terrorism money without getting caught. No normal citizen can run the internet/has access to the internet and if they were caught doing so they would be murdered so there's no way any of them could engage in this anyways. I'm so sorry noone told you what North Korea is like.

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OscarCunningham 5y ago
The fact that he was allowed to give the talk indicates that the North Korean government was happy for these people to know this information. So they also would have been fine with giving the same people the same information from the internet.
thefr0g 5y ago
> Giving a talk like this in North Korea is like teaching businessmen how to engage in moving criminal/ terrorism money without getting caught. Since when is that problematic? Should we lock up CIA agents for 20 years too? I thought USA was the land of the free.
chrisco255 5y ago
The point about the information being publicly available on the internet is that it's public information. Not that your average Joe in NK can access it. The regime most certainly does have internet access though, so pretending like this guy gave some top secret info worth locking him up for 20 years of his life for is ridiculous. Nevermind that in 2019 we were in active peace talks with North Korea and even Trump was seen walking across the border without secret service protection to speak with Kim Jong Un that year.
- vishnugupta 5y ago
  > The point about the information being publicly available on the internet is that it's public information. Modulo local government laws. I am not disagreeing with your larger opinion but we have to be careful about “it’s on the internet hence anyone can access it” line of argument. For instance Pornhub is blocked in India. So if someone were to access it from within India through VPN or whatnot then they are breaking a law and have to face the consequences.
  - chrisco255 5y ago
    I will speak out against BS like that too. Just because a law exists doesn't make it right or moral.
not1ofU 5y ago
"No normal citizen can run the internet/has access to the internet..." So, the ones that do have access to the internet, could in fact, as the parent suggests, just go on youtube and get that info. Am I missing something?
- selfhoster11 5y ago
  Except those are the privileged caste, so it would be immoral to do such a thing in any case.

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OscarCunningham 5y ago

The fact that he was allowed to give the talk indicates that the North Korean government was happy for these people to know this information. So they also would have been fine with giving the same people the same information from the internet.

thefr0g 5y ago

> Giving a talk like this in North Korea is like teaching businessmen how to engage in moving criminal/ terrorism money without getting caught. Since when is that problematic? Should we lock up CIA agents for 20 years too? I thought USA was the land of the free.

chrisco255 5y ago

The point about the information being publicly available on the internet is that it's public information. Not that your average Joe in NK can access it. The regime most certainly does have internet access though, so pretending like this guy gave some top secret info worth locking him up for 20 years of his life for is ridiculous. Nevermind that in 2019 we were in active peace talks with North Korea and even Trump was seen walking across the border without secret service protection to speak with Kim Jong Un that year.

vishnugupta 5y ago
> The point about the information being publicly available on the internet is that it's public information. Modulo local government laws. I am not disagreeing with your larger opinion but we have to be careful about “it’s on the internet hence anyone can access it” line of argument. For instance Pornhub is blocked in India. So if someone were to access it from within India through VPN or whatnot then they are breaking a law and have to face the consequences.
- chrisco255 5y ago
  I will speak out against BS like that too. Just because a law exists doesn't make it right or moral.

not1ofU 5y ago

"No normal citizen can run the internet/has access to the internet..." So, the ones that do have access to the internet, could in fact, as the parent suggests, just go on youtube and get that info. Am I missing something?

selfhoster11 5y ago
Except those are the privileged caste, so it would be immoral to do such a thing in any case.