>The "needy" have no claim on the output of the productive. Then the needy have no need to participate in, support, and follow the rules of society and might a

>The "needy" have no claim on the output of the productive. Then the needy have no need to participate in, support, and follow the rules of society and might as well support principles of anarchy. Why should they bother with this system they have no chance of succeeding in? When we decided to form societies and governments, we already decided we were going to work together to help each other out--all this social contract stuff. The increasingly extreme stages of capitalism we see now has instead recreated an abstract form of survival of the fittest in economics. This has slowly broken the social contract that gave rise to people agreeing to join and participate in societies to begin with. Many are struggling for basic needs, not just wants. Everything is about how much money and capital you can roll up. If this gets too extreme, for the bulk of the population who aren't doing well (those who have no claim on the "productive") in this abstracted form of survivalism, why not just push for anarchy and revert back to lawlessness and the non-abstracted survival of the fittest? What do the needy have to gain to follow this arbitrary abstract system they've lost in? They might have a chance of becoming a king in a different structure so they will support other options. If you get enough people who think like this, you will see major changes in government or perhaps complete collapses of societial structures. Welfare needs to exist, we need to provide for those who can't provide for themselves. If we don't, we risk massive social instability because only the winners will have any sort of incentive to participate. Plus there's, I don't know, being human mixed in there too (maybe it's just me but I feel everyone should have some basic support). Capitalism can only exist if you can provide the stable societal structure for it to exist within, for property to accumulate, for property rights to be granted, honored, and enforced. For that to happen you need to make sure the poorest participants have some interest in participating in your society and not rejecting it outright. I suppose force is another option if you like authoritarian systems.