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Same for China. KMT moved majority of the intellectuals and wealth into Taiwan, and left the mainland with rubbish. If China and Russia chose a different rout
by justicezyx 5y ago
Same for China.
KMT moved majority of the intellectuals and wealth into Taiwan, and left the mainland with rubbish.
If China and Russia chose a different route than what they did already, are there a plausible pathway for them to reach similar economic prosperity (let's put aside the political well being for a bit).
My so far limited conclusion is: NO.
There has no plausible path for Russia and China to achieve their economical growth without the brutality and sacrifices. The rapid industrialization requires centralized wealth. Those are not collected through the immoral and brutal colonization by the modern industrial nations. Those were not possible at the time when Russia and China start their industrialization. They unfortunately have to turn their brutality towards their own people.
- trasz 5y agoI agree, but I'd argue it's even more interesting why we even bother with this question in case of China and Russia, but never with USA, which was built in equally immoral way, by killing off the natives, stealing their land, and then kidnapping slaves to work it.
- justicezyx 5y agoIt's emotionally hard for one to accept their own identified group's wrongdoings. For this, I always start with the history of China and then followed by pointers to US histories, if the conversation flow allows. There is also a persistent danger that this flow eventually leads to political nihilism where there is no meaning in trying to dissecting the historical facts, and everyone is as bad as everyone else. That effectively moves the discussion back to the starting point, i.e., one has to look for something else to settle the original discussion anyway.