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This is exactly the same 'cancel culture' behavior that many US Republicans like to decry. In the same way that, in many recent high profile cases, right-leanin

by tbihl 5y ago

This is exactly the same 'cancel culture' behavior that many US Republicans like to decry. In the same way that, in many recent high profile cases, right-leaning knowledge workers like professors have been forced from positions for sinning against the dogma of their professions in semi-private settings, this priest has been forced from his profession for his sinning against his employer's dogma. I guess the difference here is that the priest thought he was not doing so publicly, though on the other hand he was going against clearly stated requirements, which is not reliably true in the other case. But hopefully everyone on this site is well enough aware that anonymity is a myth in far more anonymous settings than ones where you provide demographics, photos, self description, and your location (I presume, if grindr is anything like other dating platforms I've seen.)

snicker7 5y ago
The position of a cleric is different than, say, a celebrity or a professor. Adherence to religious dogma (in both thoughts and actions) is a strict requirement.
- mikem170 5y ago
  Not all religions demand the same adherence to dogma as Catholics do. Some more, some less. This also varies across political movements, professors and celebrities in difference countries, etc.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    And it is probably safe to assume that even in those cases where they do that a sizeable fraction of those under that particular edict break the rules. You can impose all the rules you want if they go directly against some of the most basic human needs you can expect them to be broken.
  - enkid 5y ago
    All religions require adherence to some sort of dogma and have restricted behavior.
    - mikem170 5y ago
      I understand. That's how it works in practice. But catholics have confession, they teach that as long as you believe and are repentant all is forgiven. Perhaps that doesn't apply to priests.
      - TheFreim 5y ago
        > they teach that as long as you believe and are repentant all is forgiven. Perhaps that doesn't apply to priests. In Catholic teaching forgiveness does not mean there isn't just punishment due, or that prudential decisions need to be made. An embezzler may be truly sorry but keeping them in a position where they control money would be bad for a variety of reasons (such as putting them in a near occasion of sin). In catholic Theology even those sins which are forgiven still require cleansing due to retained attachment to sin after death, this punishment / purification is called purgation and occurs in purgatory.
- throwaway9980 5y ago
  Yeah, for this to be exactly the same the assumption would be that adherence to a certain dogma is a strict requirement for continued participation in society. Oh wait...
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bsder 5y ago
> This is exactly the same 'cancel culture' behavior that many US Republicans like to decry. Hypocrisy is a central tenet of the US Republican platform. "Laws for thee but not for me" is a cornerstone of their belief system.
- tbihl 5y ago
  That took longer than expected.

by tbihl 5y ago

snicker7 5y ago

The position of a cleric is different than, say, a celebrity or a professor. Adherence to religious dogma (in both thoughts and actions) is a strict requirement.

mikem170 5y ago
Not all religions demand the same adherence to dogma as Catholics do. Some more, some less. This also varies across political movements, professors and celebrities in difference countries, etc.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  And it is probably safe to assume that even in those cases where they do that a sizeable fraction of those under that particular edict break the rules. You can impose all the rules you want if they go directly against some of the most basic human needs you can expect them to be broken.
- enkid 5y ago
  All religions require adherence to some sort of dogma and have restricted behavior.
  - mikem170 5y ago
    I understand. That's how it works in practice. But catholics have confession, they teach that as long as you believe and are repentant all is forgiven. Perhaps that doesn't apply to priests.
    - TheFreim 5y ago
      > they teach that as long as you believe and are repentant all is forgiven. Perhaps that doesn't apply to priests. In Catholic teaching forgiveness does not mean there isn't just punishment due, or that prudential decisions need to be made. An embezzler may be truly sorry but keeping them in a position where they control money would be bad for a variety of reasons (such as putting them in a near occasion of sin). In catholic Theology even those sins which are forgiven still require cleansing due to retained attachment to sin after death, this punishment / purification is called purgation and occurs in purgatory.
throwaway9980 5y ago
Yeah, for this to be exactly the same the assumption would be that adherence to a certain dogma is a strict requirement for continued participation in society. Oh wait...

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bsder 5y ago

> This is exactly the same 'cancel culture' behavior that many US Republicans like to decry. Hypocrisy is a central tenet of the US Republican platform. "Laws for thee but not for me" is a cornerstone of their belief system.

tbihl 5y ago
That took longer than expected.