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If you don't mind me asking (off-topic), are you less into longevity stuff now? if yes, what made you less into it/possibly more skeptical of it?

• giantg2 5y ago
  Not the same person, but it used to excite me when I was younger. Now I realize that life is mostly full of bullshit outside our control. I hate my job, so why would I want to live significantly longer when it means working longer? Political and cultural changes could be difficult to handle too.
  • epicureanideal 5y ago
    I sometimes have similar thoughts, but then I wonder, if I were to live to 300, maybe some of the bullshit would go away some time in my 100s and everything might be more enjoyable? Let's hope we don't need to deal with critical race theory / unconscious bias trainings at work and open derogatory statements against non-minorities for more than another 5-10 years, for example... I have to say it's making work a lot less pleasant than it used to be. And maybe if we're extremely lucky some of the VC money will become more widely available to people based on competence rather than connections and personal wealth.
    • giantg2 5y ago
      If other people are living to 300 too, then I would think it's likely they will bring their bullshit with them, right? I feel like dying isn't just about making physical space for then next generation but also allowing space for cultural changes.
  • retzkek 5y ago
    Climate change is also going to make the world increasingly less pleasant to live in over the next couple decades, directly (weather, flooding, drought, famine, etc) and indirectly (instability, social unrest, war). Unless you can extend your life long enough (and otherwise have the means) to see the other side of this epoch, suffering through more of it is probably not desirable.
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    • maerF0x0 5y ago
      honest question, do you think this is true even for middle class or wealthier people from wealthy nations? I imagine we have the resources to just move and adapt. The way I understood it it's the poor nations that are really screwed. They cannot afford to relocate, and some of them have the worst weather already (feeding into why they're already poor).. .
      • retzkek 5y ago
        Sure, the wealthy will be able to move and adapt, consuming an increasingly large share of the dwindling resources to maintain their comfortable lifestyle. Meanwhile the poor and then the middle class will be left to fend for themselves, or stuffed into refugee camps in marginally habitable areas.
        • giantg2 5y ago
          ... or rise up as history has previously shown.
• maerF0x0 5y ago
  Presently I am less into it because I realized a few things 1. A lot of the things are either very expensive or very difficult. Ex: the probiotics david sinclar takes is like hundreds of dollars, NAD/NMN are expensive etc. Other things are difficult for my current life like getting access to heat exposure therapy (very hot dry sauna) or fasting protocols. Inside tracker with inner age is like $600 each time? Also I realized that if I donated to methuselah foundation, I'm investing money into the future for others' treatments I'm unlikely to be able to afford myself (or marginally worse, I would have been able to afford, but I donated $$$ over time such that I marginally no longer could..) 2. There was little point looking at the extreme ends of longevity because I was missing major first steps like dropping my BMI from 31 to 23.