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And yet MySQL is very much alive..? Java has fully opensource implementations too, and has had innovations like GraalVM and Jakarta EE. I think I'm too young t

And yet MySQL is very much alive..? Java has fully opensource implementations too, and has had innovations like GraalVM and Jakarta EE. I think I'm too young to hate Oracle with a burning passion. I would be very scared of their sales/corporate team, but I mean, even having large contracts with Google or Amazon is difficult to say the least.

danpalmer 5y ago
MySQL is alive for companies already using MySQL, but would well informed companies be choosing it today? I'm not so sure. I think you either want it to have more functionality and you choose Postgres, you want a particular performance profile and you pick MariaDB, or you want the enterprise support and you pick Oracle's database. Why you would pick Oracle-supported MySQL today I'm not sure.
- abledon 5y ago
  didn't the new basecamp "Hey" email product choose to use MySQL?
  - danpalmer 5y ago
    I think so, but they have been operating MySQL at scale for many products for about 20 years, so I can understand why they might not choose MariaDB (or Postgres, Oracle, etc).
- threeseed 5y ago
  > have more functionality and you choose Postgres PostgreSQL still after all these years has a terrible story when it comes to HA and horizontal scalability. Nothing is built in or supported. And one of the only companies to provide something half decent i.e. Citus is now owned by Microsoft and so that project is now at risk. At least MySQL has something built-in.
  - danpalmer 5y ago
    So MariaDB then.
- ericyan 5y ago
  Easy to operate, perhaps? With MySQL group replication, it is pretty easy to set up a HA cluster that allows you to sleep soundly. It can also handle thousands of connections without the need of a connection pooler.
  - danpalmer 5y ago
    Sure, but MariaDB is the more obvious choice surely?
    - evanelias 5y ago
      No, why do you think so? Among the largest users, MySQL (or Percona Server) is chosen far more frequently than MariaDB. GP mentioned Group Replication, which isn't even available in MariaDB.
- redis_mlc 5y ago
  > I think you either want it to have more functionality and you choose Postgres False. MySQL and Postgres are comparable feature-wise. @danpalmer: you're making an ass of yourself. It's clear from your comments that you're around 10 years out of date.
- kaba0 5y ago
  That one is more on MySQL, isn’t it? They were the ones that sort of stopped innovating for a time.
- VintageCool 5y ago
  Most people seem to be using the Percona Server branch of MySQL.
  - danpalmer 5y ago
    Good point, again this seems like another alternative that makes "stock" MySQL an option that there seems to be no good reason to choose.

danpalmer 5y ago

MySQL is alive for companies already using MySQL, but would well informed companies be choosing it today? I'm not so sure. I think you either want it to have more functionality and you choose Postgres, you want a particular performance profile and you pick MariaDB, or you want the enterprise support and you pick Oracle's database. Why you would pick Oracle-supported MySQL today I'm not sure.

abledon 5y ago
didn't the new basecamp "Hey" email product choose to use MySQL?
- danpalmer 5y ago
  I think so, but they have been operating MySQL at scale for many products for about 20 years, so I can understand why they might not choose MariaDB (or Postgres, Oracle, etc).
threeseed 5y ago
> have more functionality and you choose Postgres PostgreSQL still after all these years has a terrible story when it comes to HA and horizontal scalability. Nothing is built in or supported. And one of the only companies to provide something half decent i.e. Citus is now owned by Microsoft and so that project is now at risk. At least MySQL has something built-in.
- danpalmer 5y ago
  So MariaDB then.
ericyan 5y ago
Easy to operate, perhaps? With MySQL group replication, it is pretty easy to set up a HA cluster that allows you to sleep soundly. It can also handle thousands of connections without the need of a connection pooler.
- danpalmer 5y ago
  Sure, but MariaDB is the more obvious choice surely?
  - evanelias 5y ago
    No, why do you think so? Among the largest users, MySQL (or Percona Server) is chosen far more frequently than MariaDB. GP mentioned Group Replication, which isn't even available in MariaDB.
redis_mlc 5y ago
> I think you either want it to have more functionality and you choose Postgres False. MySQL and Postgres are comparable feature-wise. @danpalmer: you're making an ass of yourself. It's clear from your comments that you're around 10 years out of date.
kaba0 5y ago
That one is more on MySQL, isn’t it? They were the ones that sort of stopped innovating for a time.
VintageCool 5y ago
Most people seem to be using the Percona Server branch of MySQL.
- danpalmer 5y ago
  Good point, again this seems like another alternative that makes "stock" MySQL an option that there seems to be no good reason to choose.