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> It could very well be that marijuana puts you at higher risk of schizophrenia More likely, marijuana use accelerates the development of schizophrenia among p

> It could very well be that marijuana puts you at higher risk of schizophrenia More likely, marijuana use accelerates the development of schizophrenia among people already at risk. > it could also be increases in the percentage of cases that actually get diagnosed, etc. This is generally a valid stock response to these sorts of studies. But it strikes me as a bit unlikely that there was previously a large amount of undiagnosed schizophrenia. (Unless we have broadened the definition recently).

mnowicki 5y ago
also it's 2% "of diagnosis" connected to marijuana use. So the difference would be if marijuana use is more commonly known/reported, regardless of whether they have 100 or 10000 diagnosis
steego 5y ago
I think the increase in cases is more likely to be explained by a number of factors: 1. THC concentrations have increased which usually means there is less CBD. 2. Legalization probably increased casual use. 3. People who suffer from schizophrenia are simply more likely to be diagnosed for whatever reason. The sum of these three things could easily account for a significant increase in diagnosis. Sometimes increases in diagnosis correlate with better detection. Sometimes they correlate with incentives to diagnose people. I’m not even suggesting a nefarious connection. Sometimes incentives with the best intentions can have a big impact.
- Weebs 5y ago
  The high THC and lack of CBD in today's strains is concerning (to me) honestly. I'm worried that a lot of the data we've seen in the past about chronic cannabis use being relatively safe may not apply when THC/CBD ratios approach 50:1, since CBD and other cannabinoids counter act some of THCs effects.
  - jbuhbjlnjbn 5y ago
    Criminalizing is a big part of this problem. With "medical" weed you can carefully chose a fitting strain just to your liking and condition, like indica for calming and sativa for inspiring effect, in hundreds of nuances even. But no. Too much money to be made for some groups from this prohibition. Can't have that, denied.
    - tolbish 5y ago
      The equivalent is alcohol being prohibited leading to everyone drinking 180 proof smuggled moonshine that makes you go blind.
watwut 5y ago
> But it strikes me as a bit unlikely that there was previously a large amount of undiagnosed schizophrenia. Why would that be unlikely?
whynaut 5y ago
> But it strikes me as a bit unlikely that there was previously a large amount of undiagnosed schizophrenia. As another commenter pointed out, US health insurance did not typically cover mental insurance until relatively recently, making diagnosis impossible for many.
techbio 5y ago
Might be broadened by the overlap of symptoms. Schizophrenia in particular is a broad classification of different kinds of similarly presenting thought disorders. A person exhibiting textbook symptoms but with the cause more directly attributable to use and social disruptions might have a vastly different prognosis and course of treatment than a more genetic or organic case.

mnowicki 5y ago

also it's 2% "of diagnosis" connected to marijuana use. So the difference would be if marijuana use is more commonly known/reported, regardless of whether they have 100 or 10000 diagnosis

steego 5y ago

I think the increase in cases is more likely to be explained by a number of factors: 1. THC concentrations have increased which usually means there is less CBD. 2. Legalization probably increased casual use. 3. People who suffer from schizophrenia are simply more likely to be diagnosed for whatever reason. The sum of these three things could easily account for a significant increase in diagnosis. Sometimes increases in diagnosis correlate with better detection. Sometimes they correlate with incentives to diagnose people. I’m not even suggesting a nefarious connection. Sometimes incentives with the best intentions can have a big impact.

Weebs 5y ago
The high THC and lack of CBD in today's strains is concerning (to me) honestly. I'm worried that a lot of the data we've seen in the past about chronic cannabis use being relatively safe may not apply when THC/CBD ratios approach 50:1, since CBD and other cannabinoids counter act some of THCs effects.
- jbuhbjlnjbn 5y ago
  Criminalizing is a big part of this problem. With "medical" weed you can carefully chose a fitting strain just to your liking and condition, like indica for calming and sativa for inspiring effect, in hundreds of nuances even. But no. Too much money to be made for some groups from this prohibition. Can't have that, denied.
  - tolbish 5y ago
    The equivalent is alcohol being prohibited leading to everyone drinking 180 proof smuggled moonshine that makes you go blind.

watwut 5y ago

> But it strikes me as a bit unlikely that there was previously a large amount of undiagnosed schizophrenia. Why would that be unlikely?

whynaut 5y ago

> But it strikes me as a bit unlikely that there was previously a large amount of undiagnosed schizophrenia. As another commenter pointed out, US health insurance did not typically cover mental insurance until relatively recently, making diagnosis impossible for many.

techbio 5y ago

Might be broadened by the overlap of symptoms. Schizophrenia in particular is a broad classification of different kinds of similarly presenting thought disorders. A person exhibiting textbook symptoms but with the cause more directly attributable to use and social disruptions might have a vastly different prognosis and course of treatment than a more genetic or organic case.