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The whole Syria thing - what was the US end goal? I mean, seriously - even in best case? You've got a country where women are educated, the economy sort of work

The whole Syria thing - what was the US end goal? I mean, seriously - even in best case? You've got a country where women are educated, the economy sort of works etc. A bunch of guys with guns takes over and....

thera2 5y ago
To install a US puppet dictator. They don't care about the people.
- nate_meurer 5y ago
  Which dictator is that?
  - objektif 5y ago
    ISIS.
    - nate_meurer 5y ago
      So, the puppet dictator that the US wanted to install in Syria was... ISIS?
      - jessaustin 5y ago
        USA is not a monolith. I didn't want that. However, my government took many steps that caused that event. ISIS only existed in the first place because USA invaded neighboring Iraq under false pretense and deposed Iraq's government. ISIS was strengthened in Syria by USA's attacks (both through sanctions [0] and through other violent means) on Syria's government. ISIS was armed by USA parachuting thousands of weapons into the conflict zone. [1] Perhaps the people making these decisions are morons who can't predict the obvious results of their own actions. I suspect they are not that sort of morons. [0] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/16/is-syrias-sanctions-hurting-the-population-more-than-the-regime https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/16/is-syrias-sanctions... [1] https://thehill.com/policy/defense/364917-study-shows-us-weapons-given-to-syrian-rebels-ended-up-in-isiss-hands https://thehill.com/policy/defense/364917-study-shows-us-wea...
csomar 5y ago
Russia is the end goal. Syria and Lebanon (through Huzballah) are puppet states for the Russian regime. They are clearly, also, very important; otherwise, Russia would not have intervened militarily (directly) in the Syrian war.
mola 5y ago
Huh? Obama tried to stay clear of Syria. The damage was done by US in a round about way, the second Iraqi war and it's aftermath which left a huge power vaccum in the region, and killing many US troops and Iraqi and Afghani civilians. Which is exactly why Obama didn't want to get the US stuck in there. Russia and Iran stepped in to enlarge their hegemony, and they put the Assad regime back in power. So kindly blame Russia and Iran for this.
- slownews45 5y ago
  But seriously - where did all the weapons -> anti-tank missiles etc pop up from? You had a bunch of protestors -> all of a sudden armed to the teeth... This is Russia and Iran? Syria was already close to Russia and Iran economically / etc. Why would russia and iran arm the protestors? The US is far far away. The US isn't (that) aligned with the idea of a muslim / islamic state / caliphate etc. Again - be very interesting to trace where all these weapons popped up. I mean this was Russia arming them?
- Leparamour 5y ago
  > Obama tried to stay clear of Syria. How does the supporting 'moderate rebels' figure into Obama's strategy of de-escalation in Syria?

thera2 5y ago

To install a US puppet dictator. They don't care about the people.

nate_meurer 5y ago
Which dictator is that?
- objektif 5y ago
  ISIS.
  - nate_meurer 5y ago
    So, the puppet dictator that the US wanted to install in Syria was... ISIS?
    - jessaustin 5y ago
      USA is not a monolith. I didn't want that. However, my government took many steps that caused that event. ISIS only existed in the first place because USA invaded neighboring Iraq under false pretense and deposed Iraq's government. ISIS was strengthened in Syria by USA's attacks (both through sanctions [0] and through other violent means) on Syria's government. ISIS was armed by USA parachuting thousands of weapons into the conflict zone. [1] Perhaps the people making these decisions are morons who can't predict the obvious results of their own actions. I suspect they are not that sort of morons. [0] https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/16/is-syrias-sanctions-hurting-the-population-more-than-the-regime https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/1/16/is-syrias-sanctions... [1] https://thehill.com/policy/defense/364917-study-shows-us-weapons-given-to-syrian-rebels-ended-up-in-isiss-hands https://thehill.com/policy/defense/364917-study-shows-us-wea...

csomar 5y ago

Russia is the end goal. Syria and Lebanon (through Huzballah) are puppet states for the Russian regime. They are clearly, also, very important; otherwise, Russia would not have intervened militarily (directly) in the Syrian war.

mola 5y ago

Huh? Obama tried to stay clear of Syria. The damage was done by US in a round about way, the second Iraqi war and it's aftermath which left a huge power vaccum in the region, and killing many US troops and Iraqi and Afghani civilians. Which is exactly why Obama didn't want to get the US stuck in there. Russia and Iran stepped in to enlarge their hegemony, and they put the Assad regime back in power. So kindly blame Russia and Iran for this.

slownews45 5y ago
But seriously - where did all the weapons -> anti-tank missiles etc pop up from? You had a bunch of protestors -> all of a sudden armed to the teeth... This is Russia and Iran? Syria was already close to Russia and Iran economically / etc. Why would russia and iran arm the protestors? The US is far far away. The US isn't (that) aligned with the idea of a muslim / islamic state / caliphate etc. Again - be very interesting to trace where all these weapons popped up. I mean this was Russia arming them?
Leparamour 5y ago
> Obama tried to stay clear of Syria. How does the supporting 'moderate rebels' figure into Obama's strategy of de-escalation in Syria?