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Does this person even know any actual artists? Many of them would rather die than work in tech.

by gatkinso 5y ago

Ostrogodsky 5y ago
Nothing more dangerous than an "artist", "innovating" in the front-end.
bobthechef 5y ago
> Many of them would rather die than work in tech. At least until they need to pay the bills.
- Matticus_Rex 5y ago
  Apparently many of them would rather not pay the bills
  - quacked 5y ago
    I don't know why you're being downvoted, I know at least 15 people who got some kind of art degree, they pefer to work brutal late-night shifts at a pizza shop or deliver food/drive Uber than take a spreadsheet jockey temp job, even if it pays 3x as much.
    - Matticus_Rex 5y ago
      My experience is similar. I know a few who eventually have made the jump, especially once they saw someone close to them do it, but for the most part they've largely been unwilling to do anything that seems permanent/career-ish that isn't what they dreamed of. I get it and sympathize, to a point, but....
      - quacked 5y ago
        The idea that one's career must bring personal and spiritual fulfillment is one of the most damaging bits of propaganda fed to young people, I think.
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- gatkinso 5y ago
  there are many ways to make a living
coffeefirst 5y ago
Right?! Can tech/UI learn things from art? Yes, absolutely! But man, the hubris. Ironically, hubris has been a subject of art for thousands of years.
egypturnash 5y ago
The article opens with "I’ve been an artist my whole life, in various forms -- children’s book illustrator, tattoo artist, and maker of branded images and characters." so presumably they know at least one artist: themselves. A career like that has probably left them with social circles that include a lot of other artists. That said, yeah, I think the only artist in my circles (I'm a artist myself) who regularly expresses envy of people in tech is the one who's never quite managed to get their career off the ground and is stuck in a series of mediocre clerical support gigs. I sure as fuck wouldn't want to trade "swanning around the parks and cafes of a beautiful tourist destination, working about 20h/week, and paying my rent via Patreon support" for having to go to an office and work on making the FAANGs of the world even richer than they already are.
- helloworld11 5y ago
  What kind of art do you practice? If you don't mind sharing.
  - egypturnash 5y ago
    Mostly I draw comics. Mostly with Adobe Illustrator. http://egypt.urnash.com http://egypt.urnash.com
renewiltord 5y ago
Presumably he's not talking to those many, then. What exactly do you want him to say. "Guys, do this thing! It's fun! Except for you guys who don't think it's fun! In that case, ignore this!" Do you want every exhortation to also include a disclaimer to not be exhorted if you actively oppose?

Does this person even know any actual artists? Many of them would rather die than work in tech.

Ostrogodsky 5y ago

Nothing more dangerous than an "artist", "innovating" in the front-end.

bobthechef 5y ago

> Many of them would rather die than work in tech. At least until they need to pay the bills.

Matticus_Rex 5y ago
Apparently many of them would rather not pay the bills
- quacked 5y ago
  I don't know why you're being downvoted, I know at least 15 people who got some kind of art degree, they pefer to work brutal late-night shifts at a pizza shop or deliver food/drive Uber than take a spreadsheet jockey temp job, even if it pays 3x as much.
  - Matticus_Rex 5y ago
    My experience is similar. I know a few who eventually have made the jump, especially once they saw someone close to them do it, but for the most part they've largely been unwilling to do anything that seems permanent/career-ish that isn't what they dreamed of. I get it and sympathize, to a point, but....
    - quacked 5y ago
      The idea that one's career must bring personal and spiritual fulfillment is one of the most damaging bits of propaganda fed to young people, I think.
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gatkinso 5y ago
there are many ways to make a living

coffeefirst 5y ago

Right?! Can tech/UI learn things from art? Yes, absolutely! But man, the hubris. Ironically, hubris has been a subject of art for thousands of years.

egypturnash 5y ago

The article opens with "I’ve been an artist my whole life, in various forms -- children’s book illustrator, tattoo artist, and maker of branded images and characters." so presumably they know at least one artist: themselves. A career like that has probably left them with social circles that include a lot of other artists. That said, yeah, I think the only artist in my circles (I'm a artist myself) who regularly expresses envy of people in tech is the one who's never quite managed to get their career off the ground and is stuck in a series of mediocre clerical support gigs. I sure as fuck wouldn't want to trade "swanning around the parks and cafes of a beautiful tourist destination, working about 20h/week, and paying my rent via Patreon support" for having to go to an office and work on making the FAANGs of the world even richer than they already are.

helloworld11 5y ago
What kind of art do you practice? If you don't mind sharing.
- egypturnash 5y ago
  Mostly I draw comics. Mostly with Adobe Illustrator. http://egypt.urnash.com http://egypt.urnash.com

renewiltord 5y ago

Presumably he's not talking to those many, then. What exactly do you want him to say. "Guys, do this thing! It's fun! Except for you guys who don't think it's fun! In that case, ignore this!" Do you want every exhortation to also include a disclaimer to not be exhorted if you actively oppose?