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It’s free, so there’s no cost barrier. It’s available at every major drug store in America, so it’s not an access problem. Significant money is being spent to r

It’s free, so there’s no cost barrier. It’s available at every major drug store in America, so it’s not an access problem. Significant money is being spent to reach these communities. Oh and if that’s not enough liberals control congress and the White House. Where exactly do you see this access problem for black and Hispanic Americans?

raphlinus 5y ago
I added a link to a Scientific American article as an edit. But it's not primarily the cost of the vaccine itself, it's much more the ability to get time off work, and also the ability to take a sick day to deal with vaccine effects. Most essential workers don't have the same flexibility that us desk workers have on that front.
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- underseacables 5y ago
  Walgreens is open till midnight, CVS is open 24 hours in a lot of places. Major cities are also rolling out mobile vaccination units. If essential worker wants to get the vaccine, there’s very little stopping them, it’s easier to get the vaccine that needs to go to the DMV.
mumblemumble 5y ago
One would assume it was the things listed in the article they linked? Which, it's from March, so a lot of the issues they cited were from early on in the rollout where supply was low, demand was high, and a lot of governments were still getting the kinks worked out. That said, some of the effects cited in the article may still apply. For example, > Another barrier to getting vaccinated is difficulty in registering for appointments online. Applicants often have to navigate labyrinthine portal systems and fill out multiple pages of documentation before appointments fill up, so it becomes a race for who can load and complete the forms the fastest. > Getting to vaccination sites can also be a challenge. They are not always near public transit, and not everyone has access to a car. As someone who spent many years living without a car in the USA, I can personally attest that, "available at every major drug store in America," does not mean the same thing as, "readily accessible." Suburban sprawl doesn't care who won the last election.
- underseacables 5y ago
  * where supply was low, demand was high, and a lot of governments were still getting the kinks worked out.* These are not unique to minority communities.
  - mumblemumble 5y ago
    But now you're mixing up terms. "Unique to" does not mean the same thing as "disproportionately affects".
    - underseacables 5y ago
      Respectfully I remain unconvinced of your argument. There’s enough in the media about the vaccine, and enough outreach to vulnerable populations, but at this point if you are not able to get the vaccine, there’s something else going on. I feel like maybe you’re trying to link this to voter laws or something, and that is just not a comparison that can be made in the situation.
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      - mumblemumble 5y ago
        > there’s something else going on Seems likely. And here we have articles talking about real researchers doing real research, as scientifically as they can, to try and pin down what those other factors might be. And you are rejecting it, not based on its own merits as research, but based on a mix of sweeping statements and political assertions. Here I just pointed out that your most recent argument doesn't follow because it's a blatant strawman, and your response is to suggest that me pointing out that the universal and existential quantifiers are actually two very different logical constructs is somehow an encrypted 4D chess statement about voter laws? Allow me to suggest that life has a distressing tendency to be neither that simple nor that complicated.

raphlinus 5y ago

I added a link to a Scientific American article as an edit. But it's not primarily the cost of the vaccine itself, it's much more the ability to get time off work, and also the ability to take a sick day to deal with vaccine effects. Most essential workers don't have the same flexibility that us desk workers have on that front.

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underseacables 5y ago
Walgreens is open till midnight, CVS is open 24 hours in a lot of places. Major cities are also rolling out mobile vaccination units. If essential worker wants to get the vaccine, there’s very little stopping them, it’s easier to get the vaccine that needs to go to the DMV.

mumblemumble 5y ago

One would assume it was the things listed in the article they linked? Which, it's from March, so a lot of the issues they cited were from early on in the rollout where supply was low, demand was high, and a lot of governments were still getting the kinks worked out. That said, some of the effects cited in the article may still apply. For example, > Another barrier to getting vaccinated is difficulty in registering for appointments online. Applicants often have to navigate labyrinthine portal systems and fill out multiple pages of documentation before appointments fill up, so it becomes a race for who can load and complete the forms the fastest. > Getting to vaccination sites can also be a challenge. They are not always near public transit, and not everyone has access to a car. As someone who spent many years living without a car in the USA, I can personally attest that, "available at every major drug store in America," does not mean the same thing as, "readily accessible." Suburban sprawl doesn't care who won the last election.

underseacables 5y ago
* where supply was low, demand was high, and a lot of governments were still getting the kinks worked out.* These are not unique to minority communities.
- mumblemumble 5y ago
  But now you're mixing up terms. "Unique to" does not mean the same thing as "disproportionately affects".
  - underseacables 5y ago
    Respectfully I remain unconvinced of your argument. There’s enough in the media about the vaccine, and enough outreach to vulnerable populations, but at this point if you are not able to get the vaccine, there’s something else going on. I feel like maybe you’re trying to link this to voter laws or something, and that is just not a comparison that can be made in the situation.
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    - mumblemumble 5y ago
      > there’s something else going on Seems likely. And here we have articles talking about real researchers doing real research, as scientifically as they can, to try and pin down what those other factors might be. And you are rejecting it, not based on its own merits as research, but based on a mix of sweeping statements and political assertions. Here I just pointed out that your most recent argument doesn't follow because it's a blatant strawman, and your response is to suggest that me pointing out that the universal and existential quantifiers are actually two very different logical constructs is somehow an encrypted 4D chess statement about voter laws? Allow me to suggest that life has a distressing tendency to be neither that simple nor that complicated.