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In my area, I have one option for fuel without ads. That's a place that has old analog pumps that still ding when the gallon dial rolls over. Obviously there's

In my area, I have one option for fuel without ads. That's a place that has old analog pumps that still ding when the gallon dial rolls over. Obviously there's no pay at the pump. If that store goes under or decides to modernize, then I will effectively not have a choice to get fuel without ads. It's really frustrating. I want to let competition and the market sort it out, but when there's no variation in the options there's no real competition.

whoaisme 5y ago
Just because competition and the "market" don't think much of your preference doesn't mean it doesn't exist lol. What a self centered view! Also it seems to me when there are no variations in the options that's when it gets the most competitive. Commodity markets are the most competitive in the world. Jesus.
matheusmoreira 5y ago
> I want to let competition and the market sort it out, but when there's no variation in the options there's no real competition. The market will always conclude it can extract more money out of us if it shows us ads. It doesn't matter what we do. Paying for stuff just makes us even more valuable to advertisers. Wish we could just ban this stuff straight up.
- SyzygistSix 5y ago
  Sao Paulo banned billboards and large signage throughout the city. I'm not sure if it would be a first amendment issue but it doesn't seem much different than banning billboards, which some states/cities do. Like addressing noise pollution, it's just part of not having a polluted environment.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    Yeah, I've read about that. Really awesome move from São Paulo. In my city people are placing ads everywhere. About three huge billboards on every major street, electronic billboards brighter than the sun, ads near sidewalks and traffic lights, ads on street signs, ads anywhere and everywhere they can possibly get away with. I'd rather look at graffiti than this garbage...

whoaisme 5y ago

Just because competition and the "market" don't think much of your preference doesn't mean it doesn't exist lol. What a self centered view! Also it seems to me when there are no variations in the options that's when it gets the most competitive. Commodity markets are the most competitive in the world. Jesus.

matheusmoreira 5y ago

> I want to let competition and the market sort it out, but when there's no variation in the options there's no real competition. The market will always conclude it can extract more money out of us if it shows us ads. It doesn't matter what we do. Paying for stuff just makes us even more valuable to advertisers. Wish we could just ban this stuff straight up.

SyzygistSix 5y ago
Sao Paulo banned billboards and large signage throughout the city. I'm not sure if it would be a first amendment issue but it doesn't seem much different than banning billboards, which some states/cities do. Like addressing noise pollution, it's just part of not having a polluted environment.
- matheusmoreira 5y ago
  Yeah, I've read about that. Really awesome move from São Paulo. In my city people are placing ads everywhere. About three huge billboards on every major street, electronic billboards brighter than the sun, ads near sidewalks and traffic lights, ads on street signs, ads anywhere and everywhere they can possibly get away with. I'd rather look at graffiti than this garbage...