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In specific to Tesla: they have found that this exact business model works astonishingly well with their customer base, so I can't imagine they'll have any rea

In specific to Tesla: they have found that this exact business model works astonishingly well with their customer base, so I can't imagine they'll have any reason to stop without some kind of backlash to their bottom line. RE: the problem in general, I don't have any specific answer, but this also relates directly to the "Early Access" program that Steam and games in general have, along with the whole "Day 1 DLC" that may or may not be there for you. It's becoming pretty endemic to our society and I do think it's just because _it works incredibly well_ on us.

piptastic 5y ago
Google was one of the frontrunners, Gmail was in beta for 5 years
- jacquesm 5y ago
  And still doesn't support fractional word search.
- eplanit 5y ago
  And feels like it still is.
wongarsu 5y ago
It's a great funding strategy: sell the MVP to get the funds to develop the full product (either directly or by showing the product is worth dedicating resources to). It also enables the most important element from agile development: early and frequent feedback from all stakeholders. Imagine an alternative world SpaceX had launched a fleet of rockets to bring the constellation up in a couple days while shipping receivers to customers; only to then find out that the satellites reflect too much light and the receivers are too temperate sensitive. The slow beta program is just the better development approach
dylan604 5y ago
Day 1 DLC is a consequence of spinning shiny discs is it not? They have to finalize a version to send to disc manufacturing months in advance of actual release date just like any typical physical goods manufacturing/distribution. There's clearly lots of work that can and is done on the code during that shiny disc making period. So it stands to reason that what ever the code is on the shiny disc once released is so antiquated it is not even worth the plastic is stamped in. Do digital release only games suffer from Day 1 DLC like this? I'm not a gamer, so I have no experience with this.

piptastic 5y ago

Google was one of the frontrunners, Gmail was in beta for 5 years

jacquesm 5y ago
And still doesn't support fractional word search.
eplanit 5y ago
And feels like it still is.

wongarsu 5y ago

It's a great funding strategy: sell the MVP to get the funds to develop the full product (either directly or by showing the product is worth dedicating resources to). It also enables the most important element from agile development: early and frequent feedback from all stakeholders. Imagine an alternative world SpaceX had launched a fleet of rockets to bring the constellation up in a couple days while shipping receivers to customers; only to then find out that the satellites reflect too much light and the receivers are too temperate sensitive. The slow beta program is just the better development approach

dylan604 5y ago

Day 1 DLC is a consequence of spinning shiny discs is it not? They have to finalize a version to send to disc manufacturing months in advance of actual release date just like any typical physical goods manufacturing/distribution. There's clearly lots of work that can and is done on the code during that shiny disc making period. So it stands to reason that what ever the code is on the shiny disc once released is so antiquated it is not even worth the plastic is stamped in. Do digital release only games suffer from Day 1 DLC like this? I'm not a gamer, so I have no experience with this.