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How does this work if you’ve never done business with the company or ever intend to? If I get a random email from a company with a tracking pixel, am I ‘doing

by scrose 5y ago

How does this work if you’ve never done business with the company or ever intend to? If I get a random email from a company with a tracking pixel, am I ‘doing business’ with them? If a friend shares my name and number with an app, am I doing business with them? If a friend posts a photo of me on a social media service I don’t use, do they send out a PI to track me down and let me know they’re going to be running facial recognition tech on the photo which could build an album of me? This is more the Wild West than a free market.

jamiequint 5y ago
For “random websites” there are laws around cookie approvals. For emails, you can’t drop tracking inside that can follow you around, at best you can determine an email was opened (think certified mail, for an IRL analog) If you don’t want your friends sharing your contact info that seems like a problem between you and your friends. Sharing contact info without direct consent is not a new problem in the internet age. That’s been happening forever.
paulryanrogers 5y ago
Equifax is a great example of a service which you don't do business with and get opted into without consent.
- astura 5y ago
  >without consent That's like complaining that they are making you pay the balance when you didn't consent to paying off the charges you made. When you get a credit card you agree to the credit card agreement. I just picked a random credit card agreement I found online (Chase Amazon Visa) and it says: >We may obtain and review your credit history from credit reporting agencies and others. We may, from time to time, obtain employment and income data from third parties to assist us in the ongoing administration of your account. We may also provide information about you and your account to credit reporting agencies and others. We may provide information to credit reporting agencies about this account in the name of an authorized user. If you think we provided incorrect information, write to us and we will investigate.
  - JohnFen 5y ago
    Equifax and the like collects massive amounts of data about people whether or not they have a credit card. There is no way to stop that without completely withdrawing from society. That right there, in my opinion, is beyond wrong.
  - pessimizer 5y ago
    I've never had a credit card in my life, but I do have a credit rating.

by scrose 5y ago

jamiequint 5y ago

For “random websites” there are laws around cookie approvals. For emails, you can’t drop tracking inside that can follow you around, at best you can determine an email was opened (think certified mail, for an IRL analog) If you don’t want your friends sharing your contact info that seems like a problem between you and your friends. Sharing contact info without direct consent is not a new problem in the internet age. That’s been happening forever.

paulryanrogers 5y ago

Equifax is a great example of a service which you don't do business with and get opted into without consent.

astura 5y ago
>without consent That's like complaining that they are making you pay the balance when you didn't consent to paying off the charges you made. When you get a credit card you agree to the credit card agreement. I just picked a random credit card agreement I found online (Chase Amazon Visa) and it says: >We may obtain and review your credit history from credit reporting agencies and others. We may, from time to time, obtain employment and income data from third parties to assist us in the ongoing administration of your account. We may also provide information about you and your account to credit reporting agencies and others. We may provide information to credit reporting agencies about this account in the name of an authorized user. If you think we provided incorrect information, write to us and we will investigate.
- JohnFen 5y ago
  Equifax and the like collects massive amounts of data about people whether or not they have a credit card. There is no way to stop that without completely withdrawing from society. That right there, in my opinion, is beyond wrong.
- pessimizer 5y ago
  I've never had a credit card in my life, but I do have a credit rating.