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This is why I can't stand Gentoo. We had a dude who was the Sysadmin before me who loved it. He upgraded the kernel deleted the old one and didn't reboot. Sever

by Dobbs 15y ago

This is why I can't stand Gentoo. We had a dude who was the Sysadmin before me who loved it. He upgraded the kernel deleted the old one and didn't reboot. Several months later the server had to be shutdown and didn't come backup. I spent several hours fighting to get the machine to a point where I could rebuild a working kernel. Within a week I prepared and migrated the system to something more reasonable.

blhack 15y ago
What does this have to do with gentoo?
mjdwitt 15y ago
It seems to me that your kernel issues are more related to your predecessor's failures as an admin than to Gentoo. Nothing you can do on Gentoo can't be done on most distributions, including poorly-done kernel upgrades.
- prolepunk 15y ago
  Nah, it's gentoo that sucks. I don't see anything like that happening in binary distributions, or assembling anything from ports in FreeBSD. I've administered a few gentoo machines a few years ago and can attest that it's a major PIA. Or let me elaborate a bit, system failures that happened on gentoo didn't seem to happen on other systems, system failures that also happened on other system took significantly more time to resolve and required much deeper knowledge of system internals than debian, centos or whatnot. When I finally moved everything to debian and my time spent on system administration tasks went down dramatically.
  - mjdwitt 15y ago
    I know exactly what you mean about time spent on admin tasks in Gentoo; I myself experienced the same when I switched my personal dev machine from Gentoo to ArchLinux. I still wouldn't blame Gentoo for the kernel issues, however. It seems to me that Dobb's predecessor failed to understand what he was doing and therefore failed as an admin. If Gentoo required a level of understanding which he did not have, then he should not have been using Gentoo. That is exactly the reason I switched; I realized that I needed to spend time with other distributions learning more basic elements of Linux systems before I would be capable of adeptly administering a Gentoo system. In the hands of those more experienced, however, distributions such as Gentoo (or Slackware) are powerful tools.
seanp2k 15y ago
Why did this get downvoted? Again, heavy-handed HNers at work :<

by Dobbs 15y ago

blhack 15y ago

What does this have to do with gentoo?

mjdwitt 15y ago

It seems to me that your kernel issues are more related to your predecessor's failures as an admin than to Gentoo. Nothing you can do on Gentoo can't be done on most distributions, including poorly-done kernel upgrades.

prolepunk 15y ago
Nah, it's gentoo that sucks. I don't see anything like that happening in binary distributions, or assembling anything from ports in FreeBSD. I've administered a few gentoo machines a few years ago and can attest that it's a major PIA. Or let me elaborate a bit, system failures that happened on gentoo didn't seem to happen on other systems, system failures that also happened on other system took significantly more time to resolve and required much deeper knowledge of system internals than debian, centos or whatnot. When I finally moved everything to debian and my time spent on system administration tasks went down dramatically.
- mjdwitt 15y ago
  I know exactly what you mean about time spent on admin tasks in Gentoo; I myself experienced the same when I switched my personal dev machine from Gentoo to ArchLinux. I still wouldn't blame Gentoo for the kernel issues, however. It seems to me that Dobb's predecessor failed to understand what he was doing and therefore failed as an admin. If Gentoo required a level of understanding which he did not have, then he should not have been using Gentoo. That is exactly the reason I switched; I realized that I needed to spend time with other distributions learning more basic elements of Linux systems before I would be capable of adeptly administering a Gentoo system. In the hands of those more experienced, however, distributions such as Gentoo (or Slackware) are powerful tools.

seanp2k 15y ago

Why did this get downvoted? Again, heavy-handed HNers at work :<