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As an American expat who has lives on Hispaniola for more than a decade, I have a pretty strong opinion on this. I can’t be sure how much of this is casual and
by K0balt 5y ago
As an American expat who has lives on Hispaniola for more than a decade, I have a pretty strong opinion on this.
I can’t be sure how much of this is casual and how much is symptomatic, but I I strongly believe that the main driver of the -current outlook- is culture.
Both Haiti and the Dominican Republic are majority slave- descendants.
Spanish were inclusive with their culture, tending to extend it to slaves, and Dominicans largely see themselves as descendants of Spanish colonists. They idolize the Spanish royalty, and fully embrace Spanish culture and language.
In contrast, the French were exclusive. As a result, harían culture is not particularly French, is much less cohesive, and shows deep cracks from the shattering of culture that was the circumstances of most of its early people.
Hatian farming practices tend towards being consumptive and destructive, lacking the benefit of science and long term thinking.
Often, land farmed by Haitian immigrants where I live is utterly barren within 5 years from extensive herbicide and pesticide use, local water sources contaminated and irrigation systems filled with mud from soil erosion.
Land tended by Dominicans, under the advice of agronimos, flourishes alongside, with less chemical intervention.
Clearly this is a matter of education, but also a result of a cultural resistance to education.
I can’t begin to tell you how many times I have tried to caution hatian workers dripping with pesticides that they need to be careful, that those chemicals will harm them, only to be told that “Haitians are immune to pesticides” or that they are not dangerous because they do not feel sick, and the advice is utterly ignored. Same for soil conservation techniques, even though they can clearly see that the technique is working for a farm 50 meters from where they are standing.
Harinas tend to see themselves as descendants of slaves rather than colonists, and deeply distrust any information not from “traditional” sources (ie magic, religion, their parents)
Obviously these sweeping generalizations and are far from universal, but nonetheless there is enough of this that it is hard to imagine a prosperous future for Haiti. The hope I do have comes from the very bright Haitians I have met that are on the complete opposite side of the fence, educated, progressive, and mostly utterly without hope for their country.
- Tabular-Iceberg 5y agoI've never been to either side of Hispaniola, but I have been to Vanuatu and have made the same observation about French colonial culture. I fully expect New Caledonia to go down the same path if it finally gets a yes on the next independence referendum.
- BrandoElFollito 5y agoGood luck for is survival of it becomes independent. 20% of its budget is cash from France. Its main income is from mining which is in deficit and heavily subventionned by France. They would need to make the socual security, police etc. 100000 people are expected to leave to France. A yes would be suicidal.
- breezylex 5y agoBingo! I'm Dominican and completely agree with your points. Just to add one important difference as well is that Spaniards converted their slaves into Christianity or Catholicism religion where the French never bothered with institutionalizing their religion to theirs. One of the many reason why Haitians culture gravitates more towards Afro descendant rituals and traditions.
- Tabular-Iceberg 5y agoIt didn't seem to be for the lack of French missionaries. But for some reason it didn't stick as well. Maybe there was more buy-in from the civil authorities on the Spanish side, thanks to people like Bartolomé de las Casas.