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> Reddit is not toxic if you agree with the majority views. Different subreddits will have different majorities with different views, no? > toxicity ... toxic

> Reddit is not toxic if you agree with the majority views. Different subreddits will have different majorities with different views, no? > toxicity ... toxic towars other people What does this mean? For example, if you are sitting inside your bubble and laughing at the outsiders, who don't even come to your bubble, is there any toxicity going on?

JulianMorrison 5y ago
No, the right wing douchebros can and will brigade any subreddit containing people they don't like.
- opinion-is-bad 5y ago
  Is there some evidence to support this being a purely right-wing phenomena?
  - krapp 5y ago
    What subreddits have been brigaded by the left?
    - deleted 5y ago
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TheFreim 5y ago
> Different subreddits will have different majorities with different views, no? Different subreddits do have different majority views, yes, but the largest subreddits all pretty much have the same ones.
- _nalply 5y ago
  Probably of the general majority. This is an almost natural consequence. The largest sub-groups start out with having most of the same people of the whole society. Then the minorities get turned off and leave to smaller sub-groups where they feel more welcome.
  - BuyMyBitcoins 5y ago
    >” Then the minorities get turned off and leave to smaller sub-groups where they feel more welcome.” Then communities like r/AgainstHateSubreddits show up and try to get those subreddits banned for even the slightest infraction.
- 7ewis 5y ago
  I've been on Reddit for over 10 years now and have to agree. Generally all the larger subreddits are fairly left. There have been some hard right subs, but most of the larger ones are banned now. I find a lot of the mods of large subs are quite power hungry too, for example r/soccer. If someone breaks some news, linking good sources, correct post format etc. mods will regularly take the post down and repost it themselves or just leave their own posts up so they get the karma for it. When I first joined that kind of thing bothered me, and I enjoyed getting internet points and actively tried to get karma. Now if I think something is funny or relevant I'll post it, but generally avoid big subs and stick to smaller niche ones about a certain topic, like a phone, programming language, football club, watch brand, cryptocurrency etc.
  - azangru 5y ago
    > There have been some hard right subs, but most of the larger ones are banned now. I can't even begin to express the emotion from the thought that someone may decide to erase a part of your life. This is what puts me off social networks in general.
    - JulianMorrison 5y ago
      If that part of your life was being a Nazi, then it should be erased.
  - simion314 5y ago
    Avoid the large ones, I am not even referring at politics, any big movie,book,game subbreddit will be filled with garbage , better to find or create a subreddit with strict rules. For politics, I have no advice , probably try real life
    - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
      That still doesn't help. Unless you 100% tow the party line in whatever sub you're on you will get inundated with hate. Try telling any car sub that Toyotas can break or that Germany's automotive regulations are even slightly over-bearing and see where that gets you. No matter how narrowly you scope your dissent from the local norms the platform rewards everyone dog-piling onto the dissenter. There is simply no room for conversation on that platform and that drives out anyone who doesn't extremely align with whatever the local opinion on a given sub is so eventually all subs become filter bubbles almost completely dominated by one set of views and you basically can't have any meaningful exchange unless it's ten levels of comments deep where the masses won't see it and crap on it.
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
>Different subreddits will have different majorities with different views, no? No, not really. Ignoring standard left/right policy bickering points you are still going to catch a lot of hate on Reddit if you don't think people are fundamentally untrustworthy by default and that centralized authorities (be they governments, academia, professional organizations or BigCo) are fundamentally trustworthy and credible by default. Offend upper middle class consumer sensibilities and you'll catch a whole lot of hate from that direction too.
- baseballdork 5y ago
  Unless you go to /r/libertarian? It's hard for me to accept such a final "No" when there seems to be a sub for literally every viewpoint. However, I am willing to accept that those subs get brigaded and maybe that's what you're referring to?
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    A half dozen subs out of thousands and hundreds of big ones doesn't really change the overall picture IMO.
    - baseballdork 5y ago
      >Different subreddits will have different majorities with different views, no? This was the comment you were remarking on, and I have difficulty reconciling "No." with the reality of all the different subreddits available.
    - kaba0 5y ago
      As if there would be more and less popular opinions among the general population? Like, I would be surprised if r/clojure had more subscribers than a gaming sub.
  - wincy 5y ago
    /r/libertarian has a moderator team that is not libertarian
tomrod 5y ago
> if you are sitting inside your bubble and laughing at the outsiders, who don't even come to your bubble, is there any toxicity going on? Yes.
- azangru 5y ago
  So what does toxicity mean then?
  - totony 5y ago
    Would you like it if there were thousands of people shittalking you? Some of them even harassing you?
  - tomrod 5y ago
    Expressed bigotry, typically.

JulianMorrison 5y ago

No, the right wing douchebros can and will brigade any subreddit containing people they don't like.

opinion-is-bad 5y ago
Is there some evidence to support this being a purely right-wing phenomena?
- krapp 5y ago
  What subreddits have been brigaded by the left?
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]

TheFreim 5y ago

> Different subreddits will have different majorities with different views, no? Different subreddits do have different majority views, yes, but the largest subreddits all pretty much have the same ones.

_nalply 5y ago
Probably of the general majority. This is an almost natural consequence. The largest sub-groups start out with having most of the same people of the whole society. Then the minorities get turned off and leave to smaller sub-groups where they feel more welcome.
- BuyMyBitcoins 5y ago
  >” Then the minorities get turned off and leave to smaller sub-groups where they feel more welcome.” Then communities like r/AgainstHateSubreddits show up and try to get those subreddits banned for even the slightest infraction.
7ewis 5y ago
I've been on Reddit for over 10 years now and have to agree. Generally all the larger subreddits are fairly left. There have been some hard right subs, but most of the larger ones are banned now. I find a lot of the mods of large subs are quite power hungry too, for example r/soccer. If someone breaks some news, linking good sources, correct post format etc. mods will regularly take the post down and repost it themselves or just leave their own posts up so they get the karma for it. When I first joined that kind of thing bothered me, and I enjoyed getting internet points and actively tried to get karma. Now if I think something is funny or relevant I'll post it, but generally avoid big subs and stick to smaller niche ones about a certain topic, like a phone, programming language, football club, watch brand, cryptocurrency etc.
- azangru 5y ago
  > There have been some hard right subs, but most of the larger ones are banned now. I can't even begin to express the emotion from the thought that someone may decide to erase a part of your life. This is what puts me off social networks in general.
  - JulianMorrison 5y ago
    If that part of your life was being a Nazi, then it should be erased.
- simion314 5y ago
  Avoid the large ones, I am not even referring at politics, any big movie,book,game subbreddit will be filled with garbage , better to find or create a subreddit with strict rules. For politics, I have no advice , probably try real life
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    That still doesn't help. Unless you 100% tow the party line in whatever sub you're on you will get inundated with hate. Try telling any car sub that Toyotas can break or that Germany's automotive regulations are even slightly over-bearing and see where that gets you. No matter how narrowly you scope your dissent from the local norms the platform rewards everyone dog-piling onto the dissenter. There is simply no room for conversation on that platform and that drives out anyone who doesn't extremely align with whatever the local opinion on a given sub is so eventually all subs become filter bubbles almost completely dominated by one set of views and you basically can't have any meaningful exchange unless it's ten levels of comments deep where the masses won't see it and crap on it.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago

>Different subreddits will have different majorities with different views, no? No, not really. Ignoring standard left/right policy bickering points you are still going to catch a lot of hate on Reddit if you don't think people are fundamentally untrustworthy by default and that centralized authorities (be they governments, academia, professional organizations or BigCo) are fundamentally trustworthy and credible by default. Offend upper middle class consumer sensibilities and you'll catch a whole lot of hate from that direction too.

baseballdork 5y ago
Unless you go to /r/libertarian? It's hard for me to accept such a final "No" when there seems to be a sub for literally every viewpoint. However, I am willing to accept that those subs get brigaded and maybe that's what you're referring to?
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  A half dozen subs out of thousands and hundreds of big ones doesn't really change the overall picture IMO.
  - baseballdork 5y ago
    >Different subreddits will have different majorities with different views, no? This was the comment you were remarking on, and I have difficulty reconciling "No." with the reality of all the different subreddits available.
  - kaba0 5y ago
    As if there would be more and less popular opinions among the general population? Like, I would be surprised if r/clojure had more subscribers than a gaming sub.
- wincy 5y ago
  /r/libertarian has a moderator team that is not libertarian

tomrod 5y ago

> if you are sitting inside your bubble and laughing at the outsiders, who don't even come to your bubble, is there any toxicity going on? Yes.

azangru 5y ago
So what does toxicity mean then?
- totony 5y ago
  Would you like it if there were thousands of people shittalking you? Some of them even harassing you?
- tomrod 5y ago
  Expressed bigotry, typically.