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Did you actually watch the video? It's from Feb 2020. That's the thing about scientific consensus: It evolves over time with the discovery of new evidence.

bsaul 5y ago
Viral propagation has been studied for decades, and studies are still being made on what the greatest factor is. In general, there's still absolutely no explanation on why some regions seem spared and other not. Models have been proven wrong time and time again, especially in the covid crisis. My point is that those kind of videos are important to understand why some people frown upon radical decisions ( such as censorship) being taken based on today's "consensus".
- Pyramus 5y ago
  What do you even mean? We are almost two years into this pandemic and the coincidental benefit of different countries reacting differently is that we have a pretty good understanding what the factors are that drive the spread of SARS-Cov2 and it's variants. It's by no means perfect, but it's surprisingly good. > Models have been proven wrong time and time again, especially in the covid crisis. That's an important take-away: models are only as good as the assumptions, all models are wrong to some extent. This becomes especially apparent if you try to predict things, which is easy to get wrong. The real strengths of models is not to predict, but to explain.
  - bsaul 5y ago
    The real strengths of models is not to predict, but to explain now that's a bold claim... if i'm not mistaken general relativity ultimate test was actually to predict trajectories we hadn't observed yet. i can model any behavior happening in the past, with a sufficient number of parameters in my equation. that doesn't say much on the quality of the model.
jylyphltkm 5y ago
It's interesting that in Asia scientific consensus was already evolved when the pandemic hit. Also, the first time I bought face masks was during the bird flu scare of 2005. Governments also bought billions of face masks after the 2009 pandemic to be ready for the next one and we had to start from zero again. But somehow, the "scientific consensus" rolled back and all the evidence was lost.
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candiodari 5y ago
Sorry, that’s not the reason. Fauci has since stated that he was lying to protect the supply of masks for medical purposes. Whilst the scientific consensus has evolved on masks, that has nothing to do with this lie (stating information you know to be wrong as fact is called lying). Nor does it have anything to do with his change of heart. https://edition.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_e58c20c6-8735-4022-a1f5-1580bc732c45 https://edition.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_e58c20... (and of course it proves what everyone does kind of knows: misinformation doesn’t just come from “weird” aunts on Facebook and Russians, but from official authorities if they feel lying to you would protect their interest, conveniently equated to societal interest. This becomes especially questionable when financial authorities do it and especially reprehensible when politicians use their positions in authorities to further their own agenda/ideology. Doubly so when it’s racist)

bsaul 5y ago

Viral propagation has been studied for decades, and studies are still being made on what the greatest factor is. In general, there's still absolutely no explanation on why some regions seem spared and other not. Models have been proven wrong time and time again, especially in the covid crisis. My point is that those kind of videos are important to understand why some people frown upon radical decisions ( such as censorship) being taken based on today's "consensus".

Pyramus 5y ago
What do you even mean? We are almost two years into this pandemic and the coincidental benefit of different countries reacting differently is that we have a pretty good understanding what the factors are that drive the spread of SARS-Cov2 and it's variants. It's by no means perfect, but it's surprisingly good. > Models have been proven wrong time and time again, especially in the covid crisis. That's an important take-away: models are only as good as the assumptions, all models are wrong to some extent. This becomes especially apparent if you try to predict things, which is easy to get wrong. The real strengths of models is not to predict, but to explain.
- bsaul 5y ago
  The real strengths of models is not to predict, but to explain now that's a bold claim... if i'm not mistaken general relativity ultimate test was actually to predict trajectories we hadn't observed yet. i can model any behavior happening in the past, with a sufficient number of parameters in my equation. that doesn't say much on the quality of the model.

jylyphltkm 5y ago

It's interesting that in Asia scientific consensus was already evolved when the pandemic hit. Also, the first time I bought face masks was during the bird flu scare of 2005. Governments also bought billions of face masks after the 2009 pandemic to be ready for the next one and we had to start from zero again. But somehow, the "scientific consensus" rolled back and all the evidence was lost.

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candiodari 5y ago

Sorry, that’s not the reason. Fauci has since stated that he was lying to protect the supply of masks for medical purposes. Whilst the scientific consensus has evolved on masks, that has nothing to do with this lie (stating information you know to be wrong as fact is called lying). Nor does it have anything to do with his change of heart. https://edition.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_e58c20c6-8735-4022-a1f5-1580bc732c45 https://edition.cnn.com/factsfirst/politics/factcheck_e58c20... (and of course it proves what everyone does kind of knows: misinformation doesn’t just come from “weird” aunts on Facebook and Russians, but from official authorities if they feel lying to you would protect their interest, conveniently equated to societal interest. This becomes especially questionable when financial authorities do it and especially reprehensible when politicians use their positions in authorities to further their own agenda/ideology. Doubly so when it’s racist)