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Russian power has been oppressive since long before communism but it was communists who managed to turn that oppression into full fledged genocide machine killi
by blfr 5y ago
Russian power has been oppressive since long before communism but it was communists who managed to turn that oppression into full fledged genocide machine killing 20 million people in USSR alone with further tens of millions going though the Gulag system of slave labour (quite deadly as well). It was absolutely unparalleled in the Western world and only matched (also by communists) in China.
Communism is a threat to humanity itself, not just capitalism.
- trasz 5y agoYou’re not aware of what US have been doing to natives, and then slaves, I guess? US still maintains its own Gulag, with the world’s highest incarceration ratio, and also uses it as slave labor.
- blfr 5y agoCommunists didn't invent genocides, prisons, concentration camp, slavery, or forced labour. But they do hold the world record. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism
- trasz 5y agoBecause it’s not fashionable to count victims of the US. Otherwise you would be able to find a book on that, right?
- blfr 5y agoQuite the opposite. It's extremely fashionable nowadays. There are countless books on slavery, Indian genocide, and related subjects. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_1619_Project However, American imperialism simply doesn't hold a candle to Russian or Chinese communism. When it comes to genocide or other mass atrocities, communists are usually in a league of their own.
- trasz 5y agoThis is only about slavery - and even that doesn’t count the modern American Gulag of private prisons, or victims of American wars. Also, you’re repeating over and over the “doesn’t hold a candle”, but you failed to quote any numbers.
- blfr 5y agoI assumed you would know since you're interested in the subject. In general, the whole colonization of the west was a fairly understaffed affair. For example, the French and Indian War involved well under 100 thousand combatants, maybe even just 50 thousand. At the same time, during the Seven Years' War in Europe over a million people were mobilized. In multiple battles Europeans took about as many casualties as the North American theatre had participants.
- trasz 5y agoWar in Iraq alone is about one million deaths. And given that you’re counting deaths of famine as victims of communism, you’d have to add victims of American sanctions around the world, as well as victims of American lack of welfare. You still hadn’t quoted any numbers.