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I really do think innovative in social media spaces in lacking, probably because the established players have no real reason to change things up aside from stea

by ausbah 5y ago

I really do think innovative in social media spaces in lacking, probably because the established players have no real reason to change things up aside from stealing newcomers's ideas but it would to cool to see if any research could be done on stuff like seeing how different features (or lack of) lead to different communities and cultures on a site

tayo42 5y ago
How do you define success for these experiments? Social media already is optimizing for engagement, probably the average hn commenter doesn't like those results though.
- BuyMyBitcoins 5y ago
  Agreed. Wondering why social media companies aren’t trying to make the platforms less engaging is like wondering why drug dealers aren’t making a less addictive opiate.
- ausbah 5y ago
  obviously every platform wants engagement, they want you to use their product over others! but I think that's only part of how you define success, which obviously will differ platform to platform like I think something like "sustained high quality discussion" is good goal other spaces like HackerNews aim for
Artistry121 5y ago
Matrix and the power of decentralized federated social networks will allow this soon.
- cvwright 5y ago
  Yes it will! https://github.com/KombuchaPrivacy/circles-ios https://github.com/KombuchaPrivacy/circles-ios
- mistermann 5y ago
  Does Matrix support full extensibility of data structures or are you tied to some minimal model?
  - Arathorn 5y ago
    full extensibility
rck404 5y ago
It's also that they have reason not to change up things. They have created vibrant monetisation mechanisms & fine tuned those mechanisms. Innovating means new patterns of interactions & ideas. This also means new forms of monetisation that might be required. As an example all the previous FB & instagram ads became obsolete or useless once they introduced stories. Now, have to create better ad formats and subsequently take few quarters to fine tune the experience and pricing.

by ausbah 5y ago

tayo42 5y ago

How do you define success for these experiments? Social media already is optimizing for engagement, probably the average hn commenter doesn't like those results though.

BuyMyBitcoins 5y ago
Agreed. Wondering why social media companies aren’t trying to make the platforms less engaging is like wondering why drug dealers aren’t making a less addictive opiate.
ausbah 5y ago
obviously every platform wants engagement, they want you to use their product over others! but I think that's only part of how you define success, which obviously will differ platform to platform like I think something like "sustained high quality discussion" is good goal other spaces like HackerNews aim for

Artistry121 5y ago

Matrix and the power of decentralized federated social networks will allow this soon.

cvwright 5y ago
Yes it will! https://github.com/KombuchaPrivacy/circles-ios https://github.com/KombuchaPrivacy/circles-ios
mistermann 5y ago
Does Matrix support full extensibility of data structures or are you tied to some minimal model?
- Arathorn 5y ago
  full extensibility

rck404 5y ago

It's also that they have reason not to change up things. They have created vibrant monetisation mechanisms & fine tuned those mechanisms. Innovating means new patterns of interactions & ideas. This also means new forms of monetisation that might be required. As an example all the previous FB & instagram ads became obsolete or useless once they introduced stories. Now, have to create better ad formats and subsequently take few quarters to fine tune the experience and pricing.