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i've not noticed this paywall at all. do anti-tracking plugins (adblock, ghostery, disconnect) zap the cookies or whatever that it uses? or is it perhaps only

i've not noticed this paywall at all. do anti-tracking plugins (adblock, ghostery, disconnect) zap the cookies or whatever that it uses? or is it perhaps only for americans? (i realise it's not immediate, but i follow links there fairly regularly and have never exceeded any quota).

seldo 15y ago
It depends how regularly. If you visit more than 20 times a month (in the same browser, see my other comment) then you should hit it.
jeremymims 15y ago
You might be right that these plugins block cookies or the javascript that informs you that you've hit your limit. They've tried to make the paywall as permeable as possible. For instance, if you follow a link from twitter or facebook it wouldn't count. But if you went to the NYTimes directly, it would. The idea is to tax heavy users and those who have more money than time. It's far from conclusive, but this trend is a disturbing one.
- dreamdu5t 15y ago
  Why is this disturbing, exactly? Do you feel journalists should write articles for free?
  - redthrowaway 15y ago
    Because clearly paywalls are the only way a journalist can possibly get paid, right?
    - dreamdu5t 15y ago
      No, the other way is to sell articles individually. Why are you being obtuse? Why is purchasing by subscription bad, but selling articles individually good? There are benefits to both. Personally, I'd rather pay a subscription because I read a lot of articles and buying them individually would be a pain in the ass.
      - lloydarmbrust 15y ago
        Newspapers have been subsidized by advertising for over 100 years, why are we trying to make money from subscriptions now?
        dreamdu5t 15y ago
        Because advertising wasn't covering NYT's costs, and easily allows people to scrape and replicate your content elseware without ads. If NYT was able to stay profitable with ads on their site, they wouldn't have thrown up the paywall to begin with.
totalc 15y ago
Adblock does not allow you to dodge the paywall, from personal experience. There is an easy way to escape the paywall: After a new page opens, wait for the text to load, then after the text is loaded but the rest of the site's infrastructure is still loading, hit Escape to stop loading. Whatever code is responsible for summoning the paywall GUI never finishes loading. This solution does not work well when trying to open multiple NYT tabs, however.
- usaar333 15y ago
  I find that the easiest way to escape is to go incognito in chrome.

seldo 15y ago

It depends how regularly. If you visit more than 20 times a month (in the same browser, see my other comment) then you should hit it.

jeremymims 15y ago

You might be right that these plugins block cookies or the javascript that informs you that you've hit your limit. They've tried to make the paywall as permeable as possible. For instance, if you follow a link from twitter or facebook it wouldn't count. But if you went to the NYTimes directly, it would. The idea is to tax heavy users and those who have more money than time. It's far from conclusive, but this trend is a disturbing one.

dreamdu5t 15y ago
Why is this disturbing, exactly? Do you feel journalists should write articles for free?
- redthrowaway 15y ago
  Because clearly paywalls are the only way a journalist can possibly get paid, right?
  - dreamdu5t 15y ago
    No, the other way is to sell articles individually. Why are you being obtuse? Why is purchasing by subscription bad, but selling articles individually good? There are benefits to both. Personally, I'd rather pay a subscription because I read a lot of articles and buying them individually would be a pain in the ass.
    - lloydarmbrust 15y ago
      Newspapers have been subsidized by advertising for over 100 years, why are we trying to make money from subscriptions now?
      - dreamdu5t 15y ago
        Because advertising wasn't covering NYT's costs, and easily allows people to scrape and replicate your content elseware without ads. If NYT was able to stay profitable with ads on their site, they wouldn't have thrown up the paywall to begin with.

totalc 15y ago

Adblock does not allow you to dodge the paywall, from personal experience. There is an easy way to escape the paywall: After a new page opens, wait for the text to load, then after the text is loaded but the rest of the site's infrastructure is still loading, hit Escape to stop loading. Whatever code is responsible for summoning the paywall GUI never finishes loading. This solution does not work well when trying to open multiple NYT tabs, however.

usaar333 15y ago
I find that the easiest way to escape is to go incognito in chrome.