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Doxxing is not a civil violation either. There is nothing wrong with doxxing people.

by colinmhayes 5y ago

nostromo 5y ago
They violated Disqus's terms of service, which is a civil violation.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  Sure, you can complain about that. But you said she was sloppily doxxed, which doesn't really seem to be the case. She was properly doxxed.
  - dumbfounder 5y ago
    Not according to the lawsuit, she claims she didn’t make some of the comments. If that is true, then it was sloppy.
- snowwrestler 5y ago
  Sure but it’s not Disqus that is filing the suit. I’d be surprised if she has standing to claim damages based on an agreement she was not a party to.
  - ALittleLight 5y ago
    The article explains she is suing for defamation. Google explains defamation has four elements: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact (he says she wrote what she says she didn't) 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person (yes, the doxing) 3) fault amounting to at least negligence (maybe debatable, but he accused her of writing something knowing only that an account registered to her posted it. He never asked her about it and has already admitted fault in accusing her without asking.) 4) damages (yes, her career)
- shadowgovt 5y ago
  I'm pretty sure violating the TOS isn't a civil violation. It's a violation of the TOS. The recourse is Disqus cuts the offender's access (either the individual or the institution) for violating the TOS.
kbelder 5y ago
Civil and Criminal violations are not the only things that are wrong. For good reason, many wrong things are completely legal, and still should be condemned.
- colinmhayes 5y ago
  Of course, but that's not the case here. Doxxing this woman made Temple a better place to learn, and hopefully it made some people think twice before posting racist comments. I think this was the perfect outcome.
  - spoonjim 5y ago
    Did it make Temple a better place to learn? How can you know that? Was anyone having problems with her before? Is academia's march towards a highly policed speech environment a good thing for students? Even marginalized students?
    - tobr 5y ago
      By what metric is academia marching towards a highly policed speech environment, though? I think that’s a line of attack against academia that has been parroted for decades, by referencing anecdotes such as this news story, while ignoring less newsworthy forces pushing in the opposite direction.
      - spoonjim 5y ago
        What are the forces pushing in the opposite direction? If you look at what happened to Erika Christakis or Bret Weinstein (try to ignore everything that Weinstein has become since then) it's hard to say that academia is not more highly policed than previously. Of course in some ways this is good, in that I recall some professors mercilessly ridiculing some students in front of the whole class, and of course professors having sex with some students which was always terrible but had no consequences until a few years ago.
        5y ago

Doxxing is not a civil violation either. There is nothing wrong with doxxing people.

nostromo 5y ago

They violated Disqus's terms of service, which is a civil violation.

colinmhayes 5y ago
Sure, you can complain about that. But you said she was sloppily doxxed, which doesn't really seem to be the case. She was properly doxxed.
- dumbfounder 5y ago
  Not according to the lawsuit, she claims she didn’t make some of the comments. If that is true, then it was sloppy.
snowwrestler 5y ago
Sure but it’s not Disqus that is filing the suit. I’d be surprised if she has standing to claim damages based on an agreement she was not a party to.
- ALittleLight 5y ago
  The article explains she is suing for defamation. Google explains defamation has four elements: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact (he says she wrote what she says she didn't) 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person (yes, the doxing) 3) fault amounting to at least negligence (maybe debatable, but he accused her of writing something knowing only that an account registered to her posted it. He never asked her about it and has already admitted fault in accusing her without asking.) 4) damages (yes, her career)
shadowgovt 5y ago
I'm pretty sure violating the TOS isn't a civil violation. It's a violation of the TOS. The recourse is Disqus cuts the offender's access (either the individual or the institution) for violating the TOS.

kbelder 5y ago

Civil and Criminal violations are not the only things that are wrong. For good reason, many wrong things are completely legal, and still should be condemned.

colinmhayes 5y ago
Of course, but that's not the case here. Doxxing this woman made Temple a better place to learn, and hopefully it made some people think twice before posting racist comments. I think this was the perfect outcome.
- spoonjim 5y ago
  Did it make Temple a better place to learn? How can you know that? Was anyone having problems with her before? Is academia's march towards a highly policed speech environment a good thing for students? Even marginalized students?
  - tobr 5y ago
    By what metric is academia marching towards a highly policed speech environment, though? I think that’s a line of attack against academia that has been parroted for decades, by referencing anecdotes such as this news story, while ignoring less newsworthy forces pushing in the opposite direction.
    - spoonjim 5y ago
      What are the forces pushing in the opposite direction? If you look at what happened to Erika Christakis or Bret Weinstein (try to ignore everything that Weinstein has become since then) it's hard to say that academia is not more highly policed than previously. Of course in some ways this is good, in that I recall some professors mercilessly ridiculing some students in front of the whole class, and of course professors having sex with some students which was always terrible but had no consequences until a few years ago.
      - 5y ago