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How does not being vaccinated put anyone else’s life in danger? As far as I am aware, the vaccine does not prevent you from getting or spreading it, only reduce

How does not being vaccinated put anyone else’s life in danger? As far as I am aware, the vaccine does not prevent you from getting or spreading it, only reduces the symptoms drastically.

fallingfrog 5y ago
It absolutely does prevent you from getting it and spreading it. That’s the whole point of herd immunity. It’s the point of vaccines in general. How do you think we got rid of smallpox? People got vaccinated, and it died out. Now there is no such thing as smallpox, so nobody even has to get a smallpox vaccine anymore. We won.. There hasn’t been a case of smallpox since 1978. A disease that killed hundreds of millions, and it’s gone forever. We could do the same to covid.
- matt_heimer 5y ago
  Usually but not always and it depends on the variant. If you still get it then you are less likely to spread it - https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri...
- vokep 5y ago
  But this is not a vaccine, it does not prevent you from getting it and spreading it, its advertised as preventing symptoms from being as bad. It reduces the chance you get/spread it too, but does not prevent.
  - fallingfrog 5y ago
    It does prevent. It is a vaccine. You’re 100% factually wrong.
    - dublin 5y ago
      No, the manufacturers of all the current "vaccines" are clear that none of them prevents transmission of the disease, nor creates immunity - the only claim they make is that they should lessen the symptoms of an infection. Go read what they've actually written and claimed in their filings, rather than the propaganda of their corporate or government PR flacks.
- dublin 5y ago
  How has that worked out for Influenza? Wiped out yet? We've only been vaccinating for it for 75 YEARS! We're not likely to wipe out SARS-Co-V2 or similar viruses. Like the flu, "Covid" or some other mutation of the Wuhan virus will most likely be with us for thousands of years.
matt_heimer 5y ago
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20fully%20or%20partially%20vaccinated%20study%20participants%20had%2040,who%20were%20unvaccinated%20when%20infected https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri....
jhayward 5y ago
Epidemiology is all about the statistics of infection and transmission. Being vaccinated greatly reduces the probability you will get infected, and if you do become infected, it greatly reduces the viral load and thus your ability to infect others.
lovegoblin 5y ago
Nothing is perfect, but being vaccinated strongly reduces your chances of a) getting infected in the first place; and then b) thus passing it on to someone else.
- TheParkShark 5y ago
  It absolutely doesn’t reduce your chances of getting infected.
  - fallingfrog 5y ago
    Sorry, I didn’t realize you were a genius in epidemiology that has disproven what the whole medical profession says.
  - lovegoblin 5y ago
    > Research from the CDC has found that the mRNA vaccines ... reduce the risk of infection by 91 percent in people who are fully vaccinated. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/getting-a-pfizer-or-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-can-drop-your-risk-for-infection-by-91 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/getting-a-pfizer-or-m... > A new CDC study provides strong evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections in real-world conditions https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vaccines.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vacci...
thebruce87m 5y ago
In my country, the age group that took up the most hospital beds was the 45 - 64 year olds. [1] This is probably true for your country too. The vaccine will prevent you from being hospitalised and burdening the healthcare system. This will allow cancer diagnosis/treatments, surgery and other life saving procedures to go ahead for other people. [1] https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/ https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker... Scroll to “ New Hospital Admissions by Age Group” and change to “In Total”.
- hmsshagatsea 5y ago
  Ok, so as long as I am not hospitalized with covid I am not putting anyone else’s life in danger. I’m lucky I am in one of the least effected demographics then. Of course no one knows whether or not they’ll have a good response but that’s a risk I’m willing to take based on the data I’ve seen.

How does not being vaccinated put anyone else’s life in danger? As far as I am aware, the vaccine does not prevent you from getting or spreading it, only reduces the symptoms drastically.

fallingfrog 5y ago

It absolutely does prevent you from getting it and spreading it. That’s the whole point of herd immunity. It’s the point of vaccines in general. How do you think we got rid of smallpox? People got vaccinated, and it died out. Now there is no such thing as smallpox, so nobody even has to get a smallpox vaccine anymore. We won.. There hasn’t been a case of smallpox since 1978. A disease that killed hundreds of millions, and it’s gone forever. We could do the same to covid.

matt_heimer 5y ago
Usually but not always and it depends on the variant. If you still get it then you are less likely to spread it - https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri...
vokep 5y ago
But this is not a vaccine, it does not prevent you from getting it and spreading it, its advertised as preventing symptoms from being as bad. It reduces the chance you get/spread it too, but does not prevent.
- fallingfrog 5y ago
  It does prevent. It is a vaccine. You’re 100% factually wrong.
  - dublin 5y ago
    No, the manufacturers of all the current "vaccines" are clear that none of them prevents transmission of the disease, nor creates immunity - the only claim they make is that they should lessen the symptoms of an infection. Go read what they've actually written and claimed in their filings, rather than the propaganda of their corporate or government PR flacks.
dublin 5y ago
How has that worked out for Influenza? Wiped out yet? We've only been vaccinating for it for 75 YEARS! We're not likely to wipe out SARS-Co-V2 or similar viruses. Like the flu, "Covid" or some other mutation of the Wuhan virus will most likely be with us for thousands of years.

matt_heimer 5y ago

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-risks.html#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20fully%20or%20partially%20vaccinated%20study%20participants%20had%2040,who%20were%20unvaccinated%20when%20infected https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0607-mrna-reduce-ri....

jhayward 5y ago

Epidemiology is all about the statistics of infection and transmission. Being vaccinated greatly reduces the probability you will get infected, and if you do become infected, it greatly reduces the viral load and thus your ability to infect others.

lovegoblin 5y ago

Nothing is perfect, but being vaccinated strongly reduces your chances of a) getting infected in the first place; and then b) thus passing it on to someone else.

TheParkShark 5y ago
It absolutely doesn’t reduce your chances of getting infected.
- fallingfrog 5y ago
  Sorry, I didn’t realize you were a genius in epidemiology that has disproven what the whole medical profession says.
- lovegoblin 5y ago
  > Research from the CDC has found that the mRNA vaccines ... reduce the risk of infection by 91 percent in people who are fully vaccinated. https://www.healthline.com/health-news/getting-a-pfizer-or-moderna-covid-19-vaccine-can-drop-your-risk-for-infection-by-91 https://www.healthline.com/health-news/getting-a-pfizer-or-m... > A new CDC study provides strong evidence that mRNA COVID-19 vaccines are highly effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections in real-world conditions https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vaccines.html https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2021/p0329-COVID-19-Vacci...

thebruce87m 5y ago

In my country, the age group that took up the most hospital beds was the 45 - 64 year olds. [1] This is probably true for your country too. The vaccine will prevent you from being hospitalised and burdening the healthcare system. This will allow cancer diagnosis/treatments, surgery and other life saving procedures to go ahead for other people. [1] https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker/ https://www.travellingtabby.com/scotland-coronavirus-tracker... Scroll to “ New Hospital Admissions by Age Group” and change to “In Total”.

hmsshagatsea 5y ago
Ok, so as long as I am not hospitalized with covid I am not putting anyone else’s life in danger. I’m lucky I am in one of the least effected demographics then. Of course no one knows whether or not they’ll have a good response but that’s a risk I’m willing to take based on the data I’ve seen.